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To: Howlin
As I said before, you seem hell bent on destroying this man; I have to wonder why.

Because, as a conservative Republican, I am hell bent on keeping a liberal from being the Republican nominee in 2008. It is that simple. I'm not trying to destroy the man, his own choices will do that for him. I'm trying to destroy his chances at winning the Republican nomination.

In case you've forgotten, that's what we do here. We fight liberals and liberalism. We promote conservatives and conservatism. We work to keep liberals out of office. We work to support putting conservatives into office. I could possibly settle for a moderate this time around, though I've been burned far too many times, but the WoT demands a Republican President. However, Giuliani is not a moderate. He is a pro-abortion, gun-grabbing, pro-amnesty, pro-radical gay agenda, northeast establishment liberal.

The very idea that he could become our nominee for President is offensive to me. And, worse, he won't win the general election if he does win the nomination. He will split the party and all of the baggage he's gained as mayor of New York will be fodder for the Democrats to wipe him out. Not only will he lose, but he'll destroy the Republican Party in the process. That is what is at stake here. And if you stand in the way of the conservative Republicans who are working to keep him out of the nomination, you're going to get steamrolled. While I can't support McCain or Romney, they don't pose the same threat. McCain or Romney could win and neither of their candidacies would destroy the party. Giuliani will lose and the Republican Party will never recover. Again, that is what is at stake. Now you may understand my urgency of nipping Giuliani's campaign in the bud.

345 posted on 01/27/2007 5:01:00 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
Because, as a conservative Republican, I am hell bent on keeping a liberal from being the Republican nominee in 2008.

Does it not occur to you that the rest of us here have our own minds and can read the same stuff you read and make up our own minds?

Does it bother you that much that people here aren't as SHRILL as you are; does pragmatism offend you?

And I know what we "do" here; we're all conservatives here, just some of us are more "extreme" than others.

You just cannot take it because not that many people agree with your view of the world.

Tough.

The very idea that he could become our nominee for President is offensive to me.

Well, there's plenty around here that offends me, starting with your sanctimonious rantings to the rest of us.

347 posted on 01/27/2007 5:09:53 PM PST by Howlin (The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
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To: Spiff
Because, as a conservative Republican, I am hell bent on keeping a liberal from being the Republican nominee in 2008.

He's not a Liberal. The party supports him 100%. It's just that no one can live up to the demands of the More-Conservative-Than-Thou part of our party.

350 posted on 01/27/2007 5:17:16 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Spiff
In case you've forgotten, that's what we do here. We fight liberals and liberalism. We promote conservatives and conservatism.

The GOP supports him. Always has through all his elections. What does that make you?

351 posted on 01/27/2007 5:18:42 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Spiff
Now you may understand my urgency of nipping Giuliani's campaign in the bud.

No, we understand OTHER things about you which will remain unnamed.

352 posted on 01/27/2007 5:19:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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