Posted on 01/07/2007 2:58:42 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
Three men detained at Port of Miami after giving suspicious statements
By Vanessa Blum
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Posted January 7 2007, 4:22 PM EST MIAMI --
Three men were detained Sunday after trying to gain access to the Port of Miami, according to a spokeswoman for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The driver drew suspicion at the port's delivery entrance around 8 a.m. after making inconsistent statements, said Judy Orihuela. The driver could not produce the requested paperwork to identify himself and his cargo. The vehicle was subsequently searched and two additional men were found in the truck's cab, Orihuela said.
According to Miami-Dade Police detective Robert Williams, the men were trying to conceal themselves. The three detainees, all of Middle Eastern descent, were in the country legally and none appear to be on any terrorist watch lists, Oriheula said.
There was no immediate threat to the port, but its cargo area was closed while authorities used an X-ray machine to search the truck, Orihuela said. The Miami-Dade Bomb Squad is checking the vehicle the men were in. "We want to make sure that trailer was not carrying anything hazardous," Williams said.
The Port of Miami is among the nation's busiest. More than 3.6 million cruise ship passengers traveled through the port in 2005, and its seaport services more than 30 ocean carriers, which delivered more than 1 million cargo containers there in 2005. The men are currently being questioned by the FBI.
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I think these guys were trying to bring something in. Whatever it was, it would have fit in the drums but it would have been too heavy for one guy to carry or handle. I bet that's why we're hearing nothing. If they were going to bring it in, they had to get it from somebody, somewhere. I saw in an earlier post that even the cruise ships have been held up and are being searched.
Now they're saying there were no barrels. But then we heard that the shoe bomber couldn't possibly have been up to no good, too, so who knows??
I heard that too, and then the next news cycle they didn't talk about the containers. I was thinking perhaps they had some kind of innocent cargo to get into the port, so they could pick up something extremely nasty that had been smuggled in to take back with them. I smell a rat some place, especially since they also said the driver didn't have any form of indentification.
I've suggested most of Iraq's problems can be solved by withdrawal of all the Sunni to nearby countries they moved from (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon) ~ their days as tax-collectors for the Turks are long passed.
Plus, the biggest one, I've noted that the Twelvers are totally wrong about the Twelfth Imam.
Let me put you in the Reyes camp ~ all same thing.
Or, he owned the truck!
If the pictures I saw are the truck involved, there is plenty of room to hide stowaways.
I am not a trucker but, I believe a CDL is required for anything over 26,000 lbs gross weight.
Actually, most of the people who are attacking us appear to be Shiites, even though we have tried as much as possible to court them and get them on our side (since in theory they hated the Sunni Saddam and he hated them).
But my feeling is that the US should not get involved in Islamic politics. We can't solve their problems, and in addition their conflicts are way too complicated for an outsider to come in and solve. Muslims don't get along with each other and they don't get along with any other religion or philosophy or non-Muslim culture in the world, unless they are such a tiny percentage of the population they are probably apolitical and really do just want to survive and get along. They've got to deal with this; we can't.
Ok, the empty drum thing is the likely key.
So we have 2 scenarios.
1. They were going to pick something up from an incoming ship.
2. They were going to blow something up like an incoming ship.
Will we ever know the facts?
This is the best summation I have read.
In fact, when it comes to Anbar, almost 100% of its population are Sunni.
There are, of course, difficulties with Shia militia groups ~ but nothing like the AlQaida in Iraq group that operates in Sunni territory.
Like I said, I'll have to class you with Congress-Critter Reyes ~ as far as he's concerned all Arabs are alike, and the differences are simply too complex for him to comprehend.
Another freeper had an interesting suggestion--if there were in fact barrels, that is. 2 guys, 2 barrels, delivery to a cruise ship...Don't know if I buy it, but it's an interesting theory.
Bet they were going to Phoenix...
LOL. You people are so naive. The reason they got stopped was they did not tip the guard $50. That's all it takes. PoM and Port Everglades are WIDE open.
You should take a drive over there sometime. People that could not get hired as toll takers on the turnpike get these jobs as long as they are related to some corrupt So Florida politition (all of them.)
I think you're right. If they can produce no viable reason for being there... I'd suspect it was recon...
just scouting....getting intel and trying to set up the next op.
Excellent post, MizSterious. Today's incident was quickly downplayed. According to the Miami Herald, two of the three men have criminal backgrounds. Whoa. Foreign-born "legal" (?) residents with criminal backgrounds, things that make you go, Hmmmmm.....
This whole incident could (I say could) be a case study about news media, news sources, and ultimate truth. After reading all of our threads, and a lot of the linked coverage (as well as a good bit of "I heard someone say on TV"), we have completely contradictory statements on:
Nothing in truck; 55-gallon drums in truck; regular industrial shipment in truck
No paperwork; wrong paperwork; paperwork that says exactly what truck has;
driver/passengers are legal; illegal; criminal background, no criminal background; not on watch list; name same as on watch list.
In many/most cases, when we don't like what the media is reporting, we know that they screw things up mightily, by malice and/or stupidity.
But, when they report what some of us would like to believe, why do we think they automatically become completely correct and brilliant.
It seems to me that a version of the old Reagan line, "trust but verify" is best on these events. If you didn't see it with your "own lying eyes," take all immediate breaking news reports and reports of news reports with a big grain of salt. Speculate, but realize that the speculation may be based on completely false versions of facts.
Then, at some point, somebody should go back and try to find out why the media said what they did -- who their unnamed sources are -- did they exist, and what do THEY say they said at the time. You can't just assume that everything is "being covered up," but neither can you assume that the media is right on Day 2, rather than Day 1. It is a puzzlement.
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