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When I would go out to get abused pits the first sign of trouble we would see is the yard. Chain link fence , tree with inner tube and cinder blocks. We would then know they dogs were being taught to be mean. Plus we would have the usually whacked out owners to deal with. Seeing a starving dog, ribs exposed with no food and maybe a puddle to drink from breaks my heart. I am not a cold person by any means. Having to call a cop to protect us from the owners while we try to help the animal they abused is scary enough. I love animals very much. You say I have a total lack of understanding of dogs. That isn't true. I have just seen too many cases of bad neglect. Too many times I have been bitten and have the scars on my arms through protective arm gear. I have seen enough to say its the owners who make dogs mean . Many times I would have liked to take them away instead of the dogs and jail them. I got much satisfaction when we could arrest them. I am sorry you think I don't know what I am talking about. I don't like to see a dog put down, but I would rather do that then have a mean dog killing other animals or biting people.>>>Any dog that can even be "made" to be mean should be put down.<<<<< Thats one thing we can agree on but lets add this anyone who does that to an animal needs to have consequences put on them. Merry Christmas ~~Pandora~

In my opinion there are three types of dogs. Dog's that are human aggressive without being "made" that way. Dogs that can be trained either way, and dogs who can't be made human aggressive no matter what is tried to get them to be. All dogs fall somewhere within that scale and most even so called experts have no idea where any particular dog falls within that spectrum. I fully believe your experience you related as anyone who knew what they were doing breeding dogs would never have their charges in such deplorable conditions. The thing I do take issue with is that you think the dogs were being "made mean", maybe yes maybe no, all I can tell you is one can't put in a dog what is not already there genetically and that includes human aggression, so if they were human aggressive they were at a minimum "wired" that way already. Merry Christmas to you and yours also!