Posted on 12/20/2006 8:54:01 PM PST by paulat
66 deaths by pit bulls in 19 years.
Gosh, are you going to post the stats (as opposed to predisposition) for how many people killed people in those 19 years? Those would be good side by side.
P.S. It would be also be a good idea to add "stats" (not even taking predisposition into account) of how many pit bulls lived in this country in those 19 years, because you know, the percentage of pits who did no harm should be reported as well. That is, if there is any interest in recognizing that the vast majority of pits never harm anyone.
You go ahead... again I mention my memories of the summers I worked for a vet (assistant or otherwise known as a poop scooper), not so fond memories of the pits that meant me harm. I know the breeds and their despositions quite fine. I imagine the stats would be far higher if people were not visually able to decern breeds like pits and take precautions in advance like we were.
I have never seen a rabie's poles used on a rabid dog, but I have seen it used to keep mentally disturbed pits for taking the staffs apendages off.
BTW... speaking of stats...
for taking = for preventing the taking off of body parts of staff members.
How lame. If you offer stats of a whopping 66 deaths caused by pits in 19 years, why shy away from providing the number of pits who existed during these years?
for = from
Texas Boy 4 killed by Pit bulls...
Excert...
A Houston-area family was mourning the death of their 4-old-son who was killed by two pit bulls that attacked as he was playing with his 2-year-old brother. Pedro Rios died of his injuries Tuesday afternoon in a mobile home park east of Houston, the Houston Chronicle reported Wednesday. He and his brother were playing when the dogs approached. The younger boy managed to escape. The boys' mother heard screams and raced to the boy and tried pulling the dogs off but they wouldn't let go until lights and sirens of sheriff's deputies' cars startled them, the report said. Deputies killed one dog and the other was wounded and taken into the custody of county public health and veterinary services. The mauled boy was airlifted to Memorial Hermann Hospital but was declared dead soon after arrival, the newspaper said. Deputies said many neighbors had seen the dogs and thought they were strays. They said no one has admitted to owning the dogs, the Chronicle reported.
Any direct answers to 341 and 342?
Years 1982 - 2006
Pit Bulls (pure breed, mixes are not included)... Attacks 1110, Deaths 104, Maimings 608...
Maimings= permanent disfiguring or loss of limb...
I'm not asking for "factoids." I have been asking for studies about predisposition.
However, since no one has offered that up, I decided to see if those of you who quote stats on deaths caused by pits to supply the number of pits who lived during that timeframe so we could see the percentage...in other words, put it in perspective.
It's not hard to understand what I've been asking for, unless one wants to be willfully obtuse.
humans first, animals second.....putting animals before people is pure PAGANISM....
children should never be put at risk, even a slight one, when it comes to having animals around...
and the papers are full of stories about how someone's prized "pet" just went wild all of a sudden and attacked or killed someone, and he was a "good" dog and "never did this before".......
I'm not missing the point. I'm the one who was making the point that as of yet remains unaddressed.
Yes, animals have killed children.
Not just pits but a multitude of species. What is your solution?
What you really want is for us to believe YOU and not our lyin' eyes. This is a fact whether you like it or not: drug dealers and losers who own basset hounds have dogs that pose little or zero danger to innocent neighbors. It is demonstrably true (just do a FR or internet search for news stories) that drug dealers and losers who own pit bulls have dogs that pose lethal danger to innocent neighbors. IT IS A BREED PROBLEM, no matter how you rationalize otherwise.
Pantermom wrote: Gee, tell that to a friend of mine. Just recently he was helping out his neighbor by changing her license plate and her pit, got out of the house and attacked him while he was bent down behind the car, over 300 stitches. The dog tore him up, from his arms down his legs. She had the dog since puppyhood, he was very familiar with the dog as were his kids. He's thankful that when the dog freaked it got him instead of any of the kids in the neighborhood.
I see that while KJC1 has responded to other posts, he has been conspicuously silent with regard to your post (#114) to him about your friend who was attacked by a neighbor's family pit bull that he knew well. KJC1 and many others on this thread are in deep, deep denial. I think it's because they are wholly feminized with regard to how they relate to dogs, whom they view as more like children than canines.
I'm not avoiding any particular post(s).
I have not denied that some pits have attacked, so I don't see your point in driving this one story home, or suggesting that I think that FReeper was lying. I have indicated no such thing.
When I have asked for studies on predisposition, I get anecdotes. When I ask others to honestly lay out the number of pits (percentage) who HAVEN'T hurt anyone, I get crickets and diversions or told that *I'm* in denial.
Strange.
Excellent points. Some of us are paying attention to facts, and others seem to be caught up on stories. Interesting to note that the news is here to report unusual or rare incidents. If these dogs were all really dangerous, there would be millions of deaths a year instead of less than 20, and once it gets to that point, it isn't media material because it's fact. The longest news stories have always been about a drama which seems to draw out conjecture instead of absolution.
I agree. All I can add is that emotion is a blindingly powerful force. That's not a bad thing, but it does have to be taken into consideration when you react to things.
By the way that is a general "you" not a you "you." I always worry that will be misconstrued as personal and forgot to change it to "one." ;-)
Finny, read what you have written
and see if you can see the contradiction in your statements.
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