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To: RockinRight
Ronald Reagan gave them amnesty.

And so should President Bush.

As hard as it is to swallow, that's the only long term solution, IMO.

Turn off the spigot to keep new ones from getting here...if that's what will keep conservatives happy.

But anyone here should get processed for residency and citizenship as quickly as possible.

The immigration department and system are broken. Too many local, state and federal governments don't give a damn...in fact...go out of their way to protect illegal immigrants.

Ask why?

58 posted on 12/14/2006 9:19:53 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: DCPatriot
Yeah, like the spigot that was supposed to be turned off when Reagan signed his bill -- which by the way, wasn't straight amnesty.

The Regan bill had a lot of criteria they had to meet, one of which was they could not be collecting any public assistance another they had to speak English and they had a waiting period.... also, they were supposed to start cracking down on employers -- then -- and never did. Had they done so we wouldn't be discussing this right now.

62 posted on 12/14/2006 9:24:14 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: DCPatriot

It sounds like you WANT our country to become Mexico.

Do you support a wall?

I have NO PROBLEM with immigration. What I take issue with is them coming here, and trying to act like they're still in Mexico. They aren't coming here to become Americans. They're coming here to turn US into a Mexico that pays them better wages.


69 posted on 12/14/2006 9:29:23 AM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: DCPatriot

Reagan gave them amnesty with the understanding that rules would then be enforced. It failed miserably. Now you purpose the same and think it will work?????????

The only long term solution is to enforce the law. Otherwise, America's destruction will be a forgone conclusion.


74 posted on 12/14/2006 9:34:45 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: DCPatriot

Also note that a lot of cities and states are attempting to make their own laws to keep illegals out since the federal government has done such a piss poor job of protecting our borders. They want to keep crime rates down, schools and hospitals from closing but the ACLU is stopping them at every turn. Do you agree with the ACLU?

I found it quite disturbing that one article noted that houses of the people who were arrested had been robbed. Is this the kind of people you want as American's? They knew who was arrested, they robbed from their own the minute they knew they were away. I have a neighbor who's ill and been living with his daughter for a couple months, we don't take his stuff, he's got stuff right there on his porch, we appreciate that it belongs to him. Some of these illegals are nothing but a bunch of thieves, they steal from this country, they steal from each other. If you want to fix the immigration system, let's cut off illegal immigration from Mexico and get a diverse population of background checked legal immigrants from all over the world. Your proposal is to accept that all these people broke the law, therefore we should keep them. That is the worst possible option.

I thought yours was a liberal position on illegal immigration until I decided to go to DU to see what they are saying. They are saying the same thing there that we are saying here (with a little more emphasis on the big bad company owners). They, like we, think the illegals should go back from whence they came, the employers who look aside and hire anyway, should go to jail. Alot of them even understand that it's identity theft that creates horrible problems for Americans.

I am curious, you said to "turn off the spigot". How would you propose to do that? The best way to turn it off is to go after employers who then are afraid to hire illegals and the illegals will go home and fix their own country after they've seen how a country should be run.


78 posted on 12/14/2006 10:12:22 AM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: DCPatriot
Ronald Reagan gave them amnesty.
And so should President Bush.
As hard as it is to swallow, that's the only long term solution, IMO.

No it's not. There's always the Clinton Precedent.


91 posted on 12/14/2006 11:47:27 AM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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