Posted on 12/12/2006 8:17:45 AM PST by Valin
There are a number of assumptions in this sentence that need to be unpacked.
There are any number of dates that can be put forward as the "birth" of rock and roll.
If one wants to date the birth of rock and roll to the release of Bill Haley And The Comets' "Rock Around The Clock" on April 12, 1954 - the very first record to hit the charts that almost all critics agree was a "rock and roll" record - then I'll point out that Sinatra's second Capitol album was released on April 7, 1954. the recording sessions for his first Capitol album were held in 1953.
So your claim that all of Sinatra's Capitol output was recorded subsequent to the birth of rock and roll is a highly questionable claim.
You make this questionable claim with the implication that either Sinatra was somehow inspired by rock and roll to begin recording whole albums of material or perhaps that Sinatra's musical style during his Capitol years was somehow derived from rock and roll vocal style.
Both implications would be wrong, on the one hand because Sinatra was recording albums for Columbia in 1948 and rock and roll didn't really move from a singles to an albums format until Elvis Presley's debut album in march 1956, and on the other hand because Sinatra's vocal style at Capitol was noticeable for its mellowness and conversational rhythm inspired by jazz vocalists like Billie Holiday and Billy Eckstine and not for the raw blues/country vocal style of a Little Richard or Buddy Holly or Jerry Lee Lewis.
Concept albums? Uh, huh. Show me me some contemporary reviews which called them "concept albums."
I believe that In The Wee Small Hours (which was recorded the month before "Rock Around The Clock" was released) was referred to by the Melody Maker as a "thematic suite."
If a "concept album" is a collection of songs arranged according to a specific concept the artist has in mind, then ITWSH is indeed a concept album and more of a concept album than some other records that are claimed as concept albums, most notoriously Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
And, when ITWSH was recorded, pretty much every rock and roll album that was released after it for a number of years consisted simply of a couple of hit singles mixed with b-sides and filler.
ITWSH was recorded specifically as an album: it was made as a unified record where every song was intended to be part of the whole and where the arrangements for every song and even the cover art were intended to convey a seamless sensibility.
....... and Tommy Roe.
You don't like the remastering itself, or just the additions?
Same place as he is today.
The ones we do have are just beautiful, though.
The Summer Wind ........ works for me.
"There were guys like John Philip Sousa, Paul Whiteman, Benny Goodman, the Dorsey Brothers, the Gershwin brothers, Cole Porter, Rodgers & Hammerstein, etc etc etc, who dominated the first 50 or 60 years of the century"
Bless you for saying that and how true. Rodgers and Hammerstein's music and lyrics can never be equaled. They were one of a kind.
The additions. Terrible IMHO. Sure it's easy to yank the tracks in itunes or whatever, but if they're going to add them-tack them on the end with a nice gap between the body of the CD and the additional material.
Not much.
He had the three things that a successful singer needs to getb ahead: (1) undeniable raw talent, (2) a strong work ethic, serious professionalism and (3) a head for business.
His thought process was simple:
If I stay with Dorsey for the next five years as his singer, he will make a fortune and he will only pay me my contract amount and only let me record songs he wants me to record. I'll have to wait 5 years to make serious money.
If I get some help from some friends of ours to get out of this contract, I can make serious money right away.
I would rather give our thing 20% of the million I could make on my own, than keep $50,000 while I make Tommy Dorsey $950,000.
Ah yes, indeed!
Jam up and jelly tight My, my, my baby Now you're outta sight Jam up and jelly tight You look a little naughty But you're so polite Jam up and jelly tight You won't say you will but there's a chance that you might
George Hamilton, Vietnam draft-dodger! Now THERE'S an issue worth initiating!
lol..........
Wasn't he banging Imelda Marcos, behind Ferdinand's back?
In 1960 Sinatra was a huge Kennedy supporter who raised a ton of money for JFK. I believe he planned the inaugural celebrations as well. Showing their class, the Jack and Bobby then basically told ol' Blue Eyes to screw. Frank took it personally (as he did everything) and eventually turned Republican.
Some of my rocker friends used to "dis" people like him and Striesand. But I have to say, I heard a concert when I was in the filming of "A Star is Born" (as an extra), and it had five top rock acts. Then Streisand came out and sang, and she blew everyone away.
I never heard Sinatra live, but I'm sure he had the same effect.
I didnt know he had turned Republican. I do think he had a piece of a certain Republican woman who has a son who is gay and strikingly resembles Sinatra.
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