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Live Thread - Hearing on Robert Gates as Sec. of Defense
Cspan ^ | Dec 4, 2006

Posted on 12/05/2006 6:50:29 AM PST by Mo1

FROM THE SENATE Hearing on Robert Gates

The Senate Armed Services Cmte. holds an open hearing on the nom- ination of Robert Gates to replace Donald Rumsfeld as Sec. of De- fense. CIA director from 1991-93 under Presidents Bush & Clinton, Gates is currently President of Texas A&M University. Senators are expected to call for a new Iraq strategy during the hearing.

NOW ON C-SPAN2 & C-SPAN3


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defense; dod; gates; nosir; robertgates
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To: Mo1

Did you understand what all of that stuff that Warner was talking about meant??

He got off on a thing about the journalist embeds..and he lost me.


301 posted on 12/05/2006 12:13:41 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth

Kids just got home from school and I keep getting distracted and not hearing all that's being said now


302 posted on 12/05/2006 12:16:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: PerConPat

He's right

Thanks for the update

Levin now asking about the Iran Contra events


303 posted on 12/05/2006 12:19:08 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1

Totally understandable...

Levin is all worried about Gates saying he didn't remember thing from Iran/Contra.

I wonder if he was so worried about both Clintons using that as an excuse not to answer questions in the past...ugh


304 posted on 12/05/2006 12:24:42 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth

The bottomline of all this hot air is: The battle between the Hildebeast and ObamaSoros for the RAT nomination, will be fun to watch provided that the Republicans decide to run an actual Republican in '08.


305 posted on 12/05/2006 12:37:28 PM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: Txsleuth
I didn't catch it all .. But CAAB is asking something about the missile defense system and the budget

Gates mention the law passed in 1999 and he supports the defense system
306 posted on 12/05/2006 12:46:22 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1
Committee is now going into executive session (behind close doors)
307 posted on 12/05/2006 12:47:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Mo1

Cspan will reair the hearing at 8pm est


308 posted on 12/05/2006 12:49:21 PM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: lugsoul
It would also be incorrect. We have lost more than 3100 troops in the GWoT. And the number of wounded is approaching 23,000.

Not to split hairs but the total on the Iraq coalition casualty page ( http://www.icasualties.org/oif/ ) as of 4 dec. 06 is 2907.

My point being earlier that we have absorbed almost the same amount of casulaties over 5 years as we did in one day and the outrage is over the military ones, they ignore the civilian death toll because it reflects negatively on them.

So the administration should be more foreful in putting the casulaiteis in perspective.

309 posted on 12/05/2006 12:59:12 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze
Not to split hairs but I'm thinking that, based on the idea behind you citing to the numbers, casualties in Afghanistan need to be included in your total.

And the fact of the matter is that casualties are much higher since 9/11 than on 9/11. You are only talking about deaths. We have almost 23,000 wounded, many of them very severely. They should not be ignored when the costs of the war are tallied. And the official numbers do not include military contractors or other civilian personnel in theater. Some figures suggest as many as 500 contractor personnel have died in Iraq.

No one - and you can't point to anyone - is 'ignoring' the deaths on 9/11. It isn't an equivalency game. The issue isn't whether the costs of the war are equal to the costs of that attack. The issue is whether the costs of the war are an appropriate price to pay for the benefit realized.

310 posted on 12/05/2006 1:05:06 PM PST by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: lugsoul

It is an equivalence game. Have you read anything recently? I can't tell you how many stories I've seen in the news about "Iraq deaths now surpass 9/11" or the countdown the media did to 1000 and then 2000 deaths in Iraq. They made it an equivalence game, not us.


311 posted on 12/05/2006 1:21:28 PM PST by ilovew (I'm thankful to PFC Mike Adams who died in Iraq three years ago...I'll never forget you, Mike.)
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To: Mo1

What happens next? Is it possible that he won't even get confirmed and then W can appoint someone else?


312 posted on 12/05/2006 1:21:28 PM PST by Miss Didi
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To: Miss Didi

Um...no. He'll get confirmed.


313 posted on 12/05/2006 1:22:03 PM PST by ilovew (I'm thankful to PFC Mike Adams who died in Iraq three years ago...I'll never forget you, Mike.)
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To: Txsleuth
Just logged on and just watched a minute of news. So Gates came back after the break and extracted his foot from his mouth with regard to his comment that we aren't winning the war in Iraq?

I despise this man and wish Dubya had not chosen him to be SecDef.

IMO, he can't shine one of Rumsfeld's shoes.

Blech! Very disappointing.

314 posted on 12/05/2006 1:23:21 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: ilovew

Just wishful thinking that some miracle would occur...like another Rummy.


315 posted on 12/05/2006 1:23:22 PM PST by Miss Didi
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To: Txsleuth

Hopefully they talked with him in the woodshed. The man is a lamebrain and will be dishwater compared to Rumsfeld's diamond.


316 posted on 12/05/2006 1:25:40 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: Miss Didi

No one wishes that more than me...I really thought Rummy was gonna stay until the end of the term. I was more upset about him leaving than about losing Congress.


317 posted on 12/05/2006 1:28:28 PM PST by ilovew (I'm thankful to PFC Mike Adams who died in Iraq three years ago...I'll never forget you, Mike.)
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To: Kakaze

forget the numbers game.

had we fought "total war" in iraq and had 5000 KIA in a 6 month blitz that pacified the country - 60% of americans would have supported it. the lesson of vietnam we didn't learn in this war - is that when americans don't perceive that you are on a path to victory, when it appears to be a stalemate with the slow bleed of monthly casualties, seemingly with no endgame - that's when they turn negative on the war.

and add the MSM and the Dems to that - who have a vested interest in seeing the country and this president fail - Bush simply "played the clock" for too long. americans can't tolerate a speech every 6 months, where we are told we need "just another 12 months" for iraqi forces to take over.


318 posted on 12/05/2006 1:29:18 PM PST by oceanview
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To: OldFriend

I'm so disappointed. Losing Rummy is bad enough. Replacing him with this guy? I don't understand...


319 posted on 12/05/2006 1:29:24 PM PST by ilovew (I'm thankful to PFC Mike Adams who died in Iraq three years ago...I'll never forget you, Mike.)
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To: ilovew

Tell me about it.


320 posted on 12/05/2006 1:30:50 PM PST by Miss Didi
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