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Mel Gibson vs. Michael Richards at the Los Angeles Times
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| 23 November 2006
| Dave Pierre
Posted on 11/23/2006 8:25:06 PM PST by infoguy
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posted on
11/23/2006 8:25:08 PM PST
by
infoguy
To: infoguy
While the article is true in that the liberal press did spend a lot more time on Gibson, one has to remember that Gibson is a much bigger star than Richards. Richards is a has-been who is not even known to most people by his real name.
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posted on
11/23/2006 8:29:14 PM PST
by
Sans-Culotte
("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
To: infoguy
Also, I believe that Richards is a Jew.
To: infoguy
This never happened on Seinfeld.
To: infoguy
Richards' remarks may have offended Jews but are theologically inaccurate.
God's plan of salvation for us sinners was that Jesus HAD to die. The Jews of the period were simply unwitting tools in that plan. They -- and the Romans -- were the mechanism.
Those who derisively call Jews "Christ killers" are way off the mark at the theological level.
To: Dick Bachert
To: Dick Bachert
Best joke I heard in a comedy club...
For those of you in the audience I want to wish you a Happy Easter.
For those of you in the audience responsible for this holiday, I want to wish you a Happy Passover.
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posted on
11/23/2006 9:10:37 PM PST
by
misterrob
(Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
To: infoguy
The point is that Gibson made a movie promoting Jesus, and Richards did not. As far as liberals are concerned THAT is the greater of the two 'crimes' Gibson committed. The whole "sugartits" thing was a bonus, and the perfect opportunity for liberals everywhere to encat revenge on Gibson for his "crime"
Michael Richards has some of the "most correct" friends to have in hollywood. They will try and at least smoothe out the situation, (with no guarantee of ever fixing the situation) although with a lot of pissed-off people looking for 'revenge'/political opportunity, there is going to be a lot of behind-the-scenes negotiations; I wish I was a fly on the wall for that one.
To: Captainpaintball
My general inclination is to sit back with popcorn and a beer and watch this slugfest metastasize. But there is one minor point I'd like to toss out. It seems to me that Richards and all the other supporting cast in Seinfeld made a $hitload of money in the last one or two seasons. A lot like Friends and other successful programs that had run long enough to supply syndicated reruns - I seem to recall that the supporting cast was getting $13M each for the final season. So - if that is true, and unless Richards is a spendthrift, I'm not sure it's possible to develop a lot of sympathy for the fact that his "career" may be in a graveyard spin at this moment. He can retire nicely anytime he wants to.
Oh, an additional point. Don't most tickets to clubs and live performances warn that there are no recording devices, cameras or video recordings allowed of the performance? It seems to me that Richards could go after the club for lax enforcement and the club could go after the video-taper for breaching the implied contract in admission to the performance.
To: Dick Bachert
...and the Romans....As if the country wasn't crawling with them, imposing foreign law among the Jews, who at least were native.
But one wouldn't know that from the Gospels.
Hyam Maccoby, Revolution In Judaea: Jesus and the Jewish Resistance.
Indeed challenging to Christians. Yet, what is a challenge to true faith?
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posted on
11/23/2006 9:50:34 PM PST
by
onedoug
To: Captainpaintball
The bigger point is that neither of these issues would raise an eyebrow if it wasn't for media making mountains out of mole hills in the first place.
To: Nathan Zachary
At least Mel was drunk.
Not an excuse...but, Richards was just whacked. I think he was trying to be funny...but he failed miserably. He was just out of control angry.
I have seen people say and do really dumb things when they were drunk. The out of control, near breakdown stuff that happened on the stage the other night was simply scary.
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posted on
11/23/2006 9:55:48 PM PST
by
Vermont Lt
(I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
To: Wally_Kalbacken
"I'm not sure it's possible to develop a lot of sympathy for the fact that his "career" may be in a graveyard spin at this moment. He can retire nicely anytime he wants to." I think he pointed out that fact to his "patrons" that night. He said something along the lines of 'When I wake up tomorrow, I'll still be rich, and when you wake up, you'll still be a - - - -". ( and Rosie O'Donnel will still be ugly)
To: Vermont Lt
Richards always was kinda wacky though. He's entitled to loose it just as much as anyone else, whether they blame booze, drugs or whatever. It would be a different story if this was his demeanor on a regular basis. People murder people and get a pass because of some temporary mental lapse. Richards is claiming he lost control, perhaps it's stress from something going on in his life, maybe a medical condition that's just starting to make itself known. He should be given a chance to figure out why he flipped out, after all, this really is unusual behavior, even for him. He is only human after all. Those who are "outraged" (media and other biggots) should be human as well, and offer forgiveness. It's what Jesus would do.
Media isn't doing the public any favors by stirring the pot, fanning the flames so to speak.
To: misterrob
"Best joke I heard in a comedy club...
For those of you in the audience I want to wish you a Happy Easter.
For those of you in the audience responsible for this holiday, I want to wish you a Happy Passover."
Why is this funny? It's just ignorant. Easter is simply a pagan celebration of fertility (read "sex") meant to displace God's designated (Ex 12, Lev 23) holy day of Passover.
The "Jews" did not kill Jesus - Jesus was King of the Jews. Every book of the Bible was written by a Jew. The apostles and the first disciples were all Jews.
In fact, Easter is never mentioned in the Bible (nor is Christmas for that matter).
Humor is only funny when based on fact. Otherwise it's just dumb. Please don't perpetuate ignorance.
And don't tell me I don't have a sense of humor - I have a wonderful sense of humor.
Jesus is Lord.
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posted on
11/23/2006 10:12:47 PM PST
by
Eccl 10:2
(Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
To: Eccl 10:2
"Easter is simply a pagan celebration of fertility" No it's not. That is rude and insulting to Christians. Jesus made passover obsolete. Christ is now the lamb. He took our sin u[pon himself. He made animal sacrifice obsolete, meaningless. If you read the gospel, you'd understand the significance of what Christ did. If you choose to reject Christ and remain bond by the old laws, fine, but don't insult others for accepting Christ. He did after all prove beyond any shadow of doubt who he was.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
To: Eccl 10:2
"In fact, Easter is never mentioned in the Bible (nor is Christmas for that matter). Perhaps you should try reading it first before you make such rediculous statements
To: Eccl 10:2
on the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures!
To: Eccl 10:2
Yeah, you're a real laugh riot.
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posted on
11/23/2006 10:29:36 PM PST
by
Williams
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