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1 posted on 11/09/2006 7:08:23 PM PST by bobsunshine
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Let's see, the Dems initiate all their plans.

1. They split the country into three parts - Biden
2. They pull out ASAP to Okinawa - Murtha
3. They encourage the locals to get more involved.
3a. Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia move to help the Sunnis.
3b. Iran moves in to help the Shites.
3c. Turkey moves in to crush the Kurds.
4. Blame Bush!!!


34 posted on 11/09/2006 7:20:52 PM PST by F-117A
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Wow. Before the votes were even cast.

Saaaaaaay...call those Diebold people!

36 posted on 11/09/2006 7:21:35 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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They're already saying they will pull back to the bases, and let the Iraqis do the work. Like bill clinton, who bombed civilian targets in Yugoslavia from 20,000 feet, causing many innocent deaths, they will not want to risk casualties. But there's no way to do the job without some casualties. So either they will huddle on the bases, an empty symbol of staying there, or they will be pulled out.

Maybe all it will make to force them out will be a Kobar Towers incident, which we will likely get if we leave the terrorists free to run around the country basically unopposed.


38 posted on 11/09/2006 7:22:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Who cares?


42 posted on 11/09/2006 7:25:17 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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"been assured by Democrat congressional leaders during a recent visit to Washington"

I need a question answered. Obviously, the Democratic congressional leaders did not talk with Iraqi leadership post election. So do they have a right discussing foreign diplomacy about how they are going to handle policy, prior to them being elected? This seems to me that they are jumping the chain of command. Is this appropriate?


49 posted on 11/09/2006 7:33:56 PM PST by Toespi
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Do Congressmen have a right to discuss/negotiate foreign policy on behalf of the United States? I thought that was reserved for the President and his Cabinet/Ambassadors only.


50 posted on 11/09/2006 7:34:12 PM PST by bw17
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I know I'll probably get flamed for committing heresy on FR by saying so, but I think there's a certain ring of plausibility in Talabani's reportage:

I'd say only about half of the senatorial Dhimmos can be categorized as true-believing moonbat, tinfoil-wearing, MoveOn types. The other half are shrewd enough to see just how much a moonbat-endorsed campaign helped "Red Ned" Lamont win the Nutmeg State.

In other words, Lieberman's easy romp showed the "sensible" Dhimmo leaders pretty much how the bulk of voters across our fruited plain would react to a Murtha-style redeployment. And that likely reaction ain't the least bit pretty, from the Dhimmo's point of view.

So whatever wild enthusiasm there might formerly have been in high-level Dhimmo circles for a "bellum interruptum" in Iraq, I imagine it's gotta be damped way down as of now.


57 posted on 11/09/2006 7:40:36 PM PST by Hawthorn
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The “Americans made big mistakes in Iraq,” he said, including the rejection of its leaders hopes to form an interim Iraqi government immediately after the March 2003 invasion rather than occupying the country for more than a year.

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Correction: The Powell/Armitage/Bremer state dept made big mistakes in Iraq, including the rejection of its leaders hopes to form an interim Iraqi government immediately after the March 2003 invasion.

(You recall that DOD's Gen'l Garner came in and started talking with people with plans for a quick interim Government set up and led by Iraqis, and then Bremer came in, revamped the Iraqi governing council into a bigger and less effective advisory board; Bremer also madethe fateful disbanding the army decision, which made tens of thousands of baathist soldiers unemployed instead of on our side ... the rest is history.

Irony of ironies - IF RUMSFELD'S "LITE" STRATEGY WAS PURSUED, WE'D BE OUT OF THERE BY NOW.


58 posted on 11/09/2006 7:42:06 PM PST by WOSG (Broken-glass time, Republicans! Save the Congress!)
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They lied.

Those Iraqis are going ot learn a hard lesson real soon ~ that is that the Democrats have quite a tolerance for genocide ~ way beyond what Saddam Hussein inflicted.

60 posted on 11/09/2006 7:43:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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Iraqi president says Democrats told him they will not pull out quickly

Well, it's a good thing that democrats are so honest and trustworthy.

63 posted on 11/09/2006 7:44:52 PM PST by bannie
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Last time I checked...THE POTUS DECIDES THESE MATTERS...NOT THE F'N LIBERAL CONGRESS.


64 posted on 11/09/2006 7:47:24 PM PST by maineman
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Wait a minute -- BUSH is the Commander-in-Chief, not the Democratic Party! WHAT RIGHT DO THEY HAVE to determine when our troops leave???????? Even if they do try to defund the war effort, doesn't Bush have a say in whether or not they can do that?


67 posted on 11/09/2006 7:47:40 PM PST by Purrcival (We may be temporarily down, but we're NOT OUT! Not by a LONG shot!)
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Democrats never pull out quickly.....they abort.


79 posted on 11/09/2006 8:15:35 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Lucky participant in 189 different Nigerian business deals......still waiting on payment.)
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Washington Post, November 2005

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told colleagues at a closed meeting yesterday morning that she, too, would advocate an immediate troop withdrawal, according to several who attended.

80 posted on 11/09/2006 8:16:15 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Well that's just ducky! Those honorable Democrats can always be counted on to keep their word!!


Nancee


81 posted on 11/09/2006 8:17:14 PM PST by Nancee
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I don't understand this overreaction to the dems new "power" by the media. Sure they will control the committees and wreak all sorts of havoc that we can appreciate. Not making light of it. But George Bush is still President and the dems have very slight majorities. Look at the limited things the Republicans got through and they controlled all 3 branches with a greater majority in the Congress. The dems can only do so much with those slim majorities if our side decides to fight.
83 posted on 11/09/2006 8:21:57 PM PST by plain talk
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By the way Talibani, Dems lie.


85 posted on 11/09/2006 8:25:56 PM PST by Hattie
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When did Congress become the Commander In Chief of the US Armed Forces so that they can decide when troops do anything?


94 posted on 11/09/2006 9:13:38 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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Well, they better go ahead and stick Hussein's head through a noose while they still can, because if the Sunni mobs break him out of stir after we leave, his life's not worth a plugged dinar...


100 posted on 11/09/2006 9:29:31 PM PST by decal (We're all in the same boat - start bailing!)
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New news to Marin County


102 posted on 11/09/2006 9:30:55 PM PST by shadowcat
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