[thackney]

This is what America needs to do. Please read the article for more information.

[endthematrix]

This from the guy [Clinton] who did everything he could to bribe oil contracts with President of Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev? LOL!

[InABunkerUnderSF]

Has this pervert ever been to Sao Paolo? Anyone who has been there will tell you that the air is nearly unbreathable. If this is what Clinton and the Prop. 87 clowns are proposing, it will set California's pollution control efforts back to the 1970s.

And, oh yes, we don't have a pipeline distribution system for ethanol It has to be carried by diesel burning trains or trucked to the refineries to be blended with gasoline. This means the further you are from the ethanol producing regions, the less you gain from burning it. By the time you haul the ethanol from the Midwest, where presumably there would be gigantic mash pots and stills, to California where our boutique oil refineries are, you've probably burned almost as much fuel as you produced in the first place. And to anyone in the Midwest who still thinks this is a good idea; ever been down wind of granddad's old mash pot? Multiply that smell by about 100,000 times.

[bpjam]

Somebody get this to Bill O'Reilly who has been crowing about Brazil like they invented a cure for cancer.

But lets just pretend, for the sake of sheer stupidity, that Brazil DID stop using oil and went totally onto ethanol produced from sugar. Does anybody in America believe that if we suddenly increased our sugar production by about 4000% in order to produce the amount of ethanol needed to replace just Saudi Arabia alone that the Sierra Club would allow it?

The sugar producers get extorted all the time because the super nitrogen-rich run off from the waste of the sugarcane is considered a toxin byproduct and the sugar companies are fined by the EPA for 'poisoning' the rivers and lakes which are downstream from their productions. It is absolutely true that dumping sugarcane stocks is incredibly unbalancing to the environment and causes a host of changes in the ecosystem which are unexpected and unwanted.

But hey, aren't we willing to kill out a few thousand lakes and rivers in order to get rid of foreign oil? Producing sugar in the level necessary to produce enough ethanol to replace foreign oil would create more environmental damage and the damage would be here in the U.S. instead and not in the arabian peninsula. They could consider corn as the alternative but you end up with somewhat the same problem and we probably don't have enough currently turnable farmland to do this kind of output without stopping all production directed at actual foodstocks.

[olinr]

They: Algore, et al, say California is too dependent on foreign oil. Well, if the oil companies were allowed to drill on shore and off shore WE WOULD NOT BE DEPENDENT ON FOREIGN OIL! They are traitors, all....

[budman_2001]

Are all narcissistics pathological liars?

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[smoketree]

I knew bubba was lying. His lips were moving.

[DoughtyOne]

LOL, I knew oil was a part of the fix, but I sure didn't realize it was that significant. Clinton is true to form. He lies about Brazil, and lies about the new gas tax being the savior of western civilization. What a maroon....