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To: redangus
What are conservatives supposed to do?

The crybabies want our elected officials to act like dictators and MAKE the world adhere to conservative ideals overnight. The reality is this nation is not largely conservative, has a huge number of liberals and another huge middle group that is easily led by rhetoric.

These realities add up to the fact that our government cannot be fully conservative, the best we can hope for is to nudge it in the conservative direction and work hard at converting more individuals to conservative ideas.

What the libertarians and what I believe the easily led conservatives (along with the seminar "conservatives") expect is a government not based in reality and they believe that they can change the reality by punishing those who were elected by their neighbors. In this they are looking at the effect rather than the cause. The cause is the electorate not the elected. If they want change they need to ask themselves what they have done to change their liberal neighbors mind. In other words they need to look in the mirror to see who the guilty party is rather than looking at their TV.

303 posted on 10/22/2006 11:24:08 AM PDT by Raycpa ( t)
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To: Raycpa

You've got a lot of nerve trying to inject FACTS into this discussion.


312 posted on 10/22/2006 11:27:04 AM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Raycpa
BRILLIANTLY STATED.... please allow me to repost?


The crybabies want our elected officials to act like dictators and MAKE the world adhere to conservative ideals overnight. The reality is this nation is not largely conservative, has a huge number of liberals and another huge middle group that is easily led by rhetoric.

These realities add up to the fact that our government cannot be fully conservative, the best we can hope for is to nudge it in the conservative direction and work hard at converting more individuals to conservative ideas.

What the libertarians and what I believe the easily led conservatives (along with the seminar "conservatives") expect is a government not based in reality and they believe that they can change the reality by punishing those who were elected by their neighbors. In this they are looking at the effect rather than the cause. The cause is the electorate not the elected. If they want change they need to ask themselves what they have done to change their liberal neighbors mind. In other words they need to look in the mirror to see who the guilty party is rather than looking at their TV.

346 posted on 10/22/2006 11:42:09 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. "..... George Orwell)
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To: Raycpa

Thank you for another reasoned response


382 posted on 10/22/2006 11:58:37 AM PDT by redangus
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