[goldstategop]

A very long and involved discussion on the issue of Islamic forced conversion and jihad, with specific examples from the historical period of the Ottoman Empire both at its height and under Westernizing Reformers during the Tanzimat. If one had to sum it up, one might say religious freedom is unknown to Islam - especially in whether to accept and leave one's faith if one chooses to do so. In orthodox Muslim jurisprudence, the traditional penalty for apostasy is death. And there is no prospect this unyielding stance will change in the future.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[edpc]

While everyone is busy "applauding" Mustafa Akyol for making his seemingly moderate point, I remain unimpressed. Where are the angry mobs and enraged throngs of Muslims who would fight against the people who have "corrupted" their religion? There are none. They are Muslims first when faced with the hard truth.

[momincombatboots]

Ouch! Please, not the facts! Awesome debate, demonstrating once more that muslims use the quaran to deepen their thirst for death and destruction. They are intolerant, and that means you too liberals- or pagans, as they are referred to in this article.

[djf]

ISLAM is not a religion.

It is an army set on conquest.

[Irishguy]

READ ALL OF THIS IT IS AMAZING!!!!

what islam really is...

dude, what a find excellent...absolutely excellent

[Condor51]

I've capitulated. My new name is...

Kareem Abdul-Jabar

I wanted Muhammad Ali, but the Mosque guy said it was taken by someone who used to be a boxer. The only problem with my new name is that people keep asking me where my Basketball is?!?!

(I thought of Chaka Khan, but found that's a chick's name and I look lousy in a Burka)

~~'convert or die' mocking off~~

[Jason_b]

bumpers

[USF]

History of forced conversion Ping.

Long, but thorough and worth the read.

[EdReform]

BTTT