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To: pigdog
The prebate - as has been pointed out continually to you - is not an entitlement; it is a rebate which is "... a return of a part of a payment ..."

Using your definition then, Social Security is not an entitlement program because those that receive payments from the system have paid money into the system. Its a rebate, right?

154 posted on 09/23/2006 5:54:28 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom
I'm not discussing the Social Security laws, but the FairTax and in that bill, the prebate is defined to be a rebate. And it operates as one by being returned readily to the taxpayer.

I doubt that S/S would qualify in the same way since there's no return of part of the payment in any direct way- and if then only many years later (or not at all) while the prebate is readily returned to the taxpayer. In addition, the S/S is conditioned upon wage income rather than any sort of tax payment - it's taken from the earner without recourse and not truly "paid by the taxpayer" as a tax. And not every taxpayer gets S/S - or has his income confiscated for it.

I've never seen any description of S/S calling it a rebate at all, but there is plenty of information that rightfully calls it an entitlement. The income tax amounts that some obtain on April 15 could be called a rebate, but if you can find a source calling S/S a rebate, I'd like to see it. So I very much disagree with your notion. In addition, it's a definition of the dictionary, not "mine".

Regardless of that, that's not what the thread is about in any event nor is whatever S/S might or might not be at all relevant to the FairTax but merely an attempted diversion..

158 posted on 09/23/2006 6:52:54 PM PDT by pigdog
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