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Are you defending what these terrorist have done in the name of Islam? If you are not, why are you attacking my conclusions from what we have all seen done in Islam's name? Shouldn't you be defending 'true' Islam by revealing that what these terrorist have done in the name of Islam is not Islamic? No instead you point to Sayyid Qutb as an illumination because "he didn't force conversion but 'merely' forced education".

Islam is a system of coercion.
Not according to one of the founders of modern radical Islam - Sayyid Qutb.

Sayyid Qutb, the long dead Egyptian fundamentalist scholar, regarded as the father of modern fundamentalism!!? Sayyid Qutb, who has most influenced the al-Qaida leaders. Qutb who was the most influential advocate in modern times of jihad, or Islamic holy war, and the chief developer of doctrines that legitimize violent Muslim resistance to regimes that claim to be !!!

You, Abd al-Rahiim, are so typical of Islamism in their 'peaceful' relations with gentiles, you do not even have the courage to be honest on freerepublic. Lying is a form of violence. Often a thousand more time more harmful than a simple act of physical violence. Lying to someone's face about your intentions to stab them in the back is fit only for the sewage of pigs.

Next thing will be for you to deny that you are a Muslim.

usually involving devotional and ritual observances,

I have daily ritual of bathing, brushing my teeth, and dressing in clean clothes, does that make 'getting up' a religion?

I fail to see in any sense how Islam embodies no concept of spirituality, especially since Paradise is often mentioned in The Qur'an.

A Paradise which embodies gross self indulgence in excess of this physical world, so excessive that it is not even possible in reality. That is not spiritual but complete materialism. There is nothing in this so called paradise which is not available to the princes of Saudi Arabia, at the expense of their peons, all ready.

The Qur'an has many sections on moral code.

The only morality that is demonstrated by these Muslims is that of complete sanctimonious self-indulgent self-righteousness, as they hide behind innocents so that they can lob their bombs filled with ball bearings and poison at civilians.

Are you defending what these terrorist have done in the name of Islam?

I love how you accuse me of condoning terrorism when nothing I wrote supports that.

My first comment related to your claim that Islam is not a religion. I presented a definition and attempted to demonstrate point by point how Islam fit [that definition].
My second comment related to your claim that Islam is a system of coercion. I used Sayyid Qutb as an example to demonstrate that there is no one view of Islam.

You also view Mr. Qutb as one of the founders of modern radical Islam; we don't have a problem there. It's questionable as to whether or not he 'most influenced' the leaders of al-Qaeda. Many other radicals disagreed with his views. He's one of the grandfathers, but he's not the only one.

Jihad is not Islamic Holy War. Defining it as such ignores the historical minor revisionist view of self struggle. However, even then, fighting is more accurate but not holy war.

Where have I lied? I showed that Islam fits a definition and used Mr. Qutb as an example to show that Islam is practiced differently by different people.

But, I'll give you the pleasure of confirming 'the next thing.' I have not said the Şehadet; I'm not Muslim.

Tell me where I said Islam is a religion of peace. I used Mr. Qutb as an example because he advocated fighting to ensure the survival of the message of Islam. Fighting ==|== Peace.

The definition is devotional and ritual. It's not or.

And the Christian view of Heaven by contrast is that much more austere? Really...

There is nothing in this so called paradise which is not available to the princes of Saudi Arabia, at the expense of their peons, all ready.

You know that in Paradise the idea is you don't die, right?

Muslims or The Qur'an? The former are people; the latter is a book.