[TomasUSMC]

The premise behind the Bush administration's policy is the hopeless view that tyranny is reversed by the holding of elections--a premise stemming from the widespread confusion between freedom and democracy.

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Exactleeeeee.

Today our troops find themselves fighting and dying to defend an Iraqi Government that democratically voted to mandate that
....ISLAM shall be a major source of Law
and
....NO LAW shall contradict ISLAM.

We are winning battles for Islam - NOT Freedom.

Let the Iraqis die for Islam, Americans should never be asked to.

[navyguy]

Have to agree with you there. Eventually, as the Palestinians did with Hamas, the Iraqi's will elect an Islamic facist government.

It's high time for the West to understand and recognize that Muslim coutries WANT strong arm facism, socialism, public executions, genital mutilation, honor killings, mass murder in the name of Allah and the jackboot of political oppression on their necks at all times. They will use Democracy to achieve it.

Islam compels them to it. They quite simply cannot help or control themselves. And the minute they had it they would IMMEDIATELY start working to achieve the same thing here. As far as I am concerned they already have stated this.

[AZLiberty]

The premise behind the Bush administration's policy is the hopeless view that tyranny is reversed by the holding of elections -- a premise stemming from the widespread confusion between freedom and democracy.

In any democracy -- even our limited democracy -- voters can make mistakes. U.S. voters have done it many times, and they have suffered the consequences. The Palestinians elected Hamas and they are beginning to suffer the consequences. The Lebanese elected a number of Hezbollah members to their government -- and gave Hezbollah excessive military power -- and they are also beginning to suffer the consequences. Hopefully, they will get the chance and take the opportunity to correct their mistakes through future elections.