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Who Are These Girls, Are They OK?
Ft Worth Star Telegram ^

Posted on 07/26/2006 10:55:03 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

FORT WORTH -- The two girls stare into the camera with little expression on their faces..

They are young, possibly pre-teens. One appears to be sitting in the front seat of a vehicle. The other is leaning forward from the backseat.

It is not what is shown in the cropped photograph that concerns Fort Worth authorities.

It's where it was found: under the jail cell mattress of serial killing suspect Juan Mesa Segundo.

On Tuesday, police released the image to the media. It's the second time in less than a week that an area law enforcement agency has asked for help identifying a child from a photo belonging to a suspect in a sex-related crime.

Lt. Dean Sullivan, a police spokesman, stressed that investigators have no indication that the two girls are victims of a crime. But he said police hope someone will be able to tell them who and where they are.

"We'd be remiss to the public in our responsibility to do a thorough and complete investigation if we didn't share this picture and see if anyone has any kind of information with regards to either of these two little girls," he said.

Segundo's attorney Wes Ball said he had not seen the photograph.

Segundo was arrested in April 2005 after police say a national database linked his DNA to semen found in the body of Vanessa Villa, an 11-year-old girl who was raped and strangled inside her home in August 1986.

Since his incarceration, police say tests also linked Segundo to two other rape and strangulation deaths. Prosecutors have since asked for a review of unsolved sexual assaults and homicides.

Segundo remains in solitary confinement in the Tarrant County Jail. He is expected to go on trial in Vanessa's slaying in September. Prosecutors have said they intend to seek the death penalty.

According to a search warrant affidavit, the photograph was found after police received a tip from inmate who said Segundo showed him pictures of 15 to 20 females.

One of the pictures, the inmate told investigators, was of Vanessa.

Cold case Detective Manny Reyes said he has shown the photo of the two girls to Segundo's relatives, none of whom recognized the girls.

While giving the photograph to the media may upset the girls' families, he said, "Under the circumstances we need to make sure who they are and, more than anything, are they OK."

On Thursday, Arlington police released a photo of a girl that had been found in the home of Nicholas Demont Wilborn, a man suspected in a series of southeast Arlington sex crimes and break-ins. Within hours, family friends who recognized the girl contacted police.

Do you know these girls?

People with information are asked to call Fort Worth police at 817-335-4222 or CrimeStoppers at 817-469-TIPS (8477).


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: childpredator; fortworth; juanmesasegundo; serialkiller; texas
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To: r9etb

The seat back looks odd for a car. That's why I thought it might be the seat back of an amusement ride that has a front and back seat.


21 posted on 07/26/2006 11:35:28 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

>>>A bit off topic, but I wish parents would stop letting pre-teen girls get their ears pierced and wear adult-style jewelry. Same with letting them dress like Britney Spears. That kind of stuff doesn't help when we're dealing with an apparent epidemic of these child sexual predators.>>>

You REALLY think earrings are going to make the difference between child sex predators abusing/raping/killing and not?

You have NO clue about the mentality of a child sex predator, which is a good thing. Except when you want to judge a parent in ignorance.

That little girl did not look in any way adult because of some small (actually tasteful) earrings.


22 posted on 07/26/2006 11:35:49 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

BTW, this comes from a mother who monitors STRICTLY what my daughters wear. Britney Spears clothing, yes. That is out of bounds I feel, but only because you are teaching the girl to focus on looking like you put out. But as far as enticing a child predator, clothing has nothing to do with it.


23 posted on 07/26/2006 11:37:29 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: nuconvert
The seat back looks odd for a car

It's probably an older-model American car -- their adjustable headrests had those chrome posts.

24 posted on 07/26/2006 11:42:48 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: hispanarepublicana
re: I don't know of many folks who have black & white snapshots except maybe people who do their own developing in their own dark rooms.....)))

Bingo. Wonder if this is a glossy?

25 posted on 07/26/2006 11:44:03 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: r9etb

I see


26 posted on 07/26/2006 11:44:26 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Mamzelle

I fiddled with the midtones/brightness/contrast and it looks like they might be able to grab a partial print off of the finger in the lens.


27 posted on 07/26/2006 11:48:29 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: sandbar
as far as enticing a child predator, clothing has nothing to do with it

Letting pre-teens wear adult-sytle jewelry and dress like prostitutes is not enticing to a child predator? And you know this for certain? Okay, lady, sure.

By the way, I am not in the slightest blaming the parents for the actions by this predator. Just like leaving your car unlocked with the keys in it in a bad neighborhood does not excuse the actions of a car thief, who still bears complete responsibilty for stealing the car.

28 posted on 07/26/2006 11:48:46 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: hispanarepublicana

Come on. Before the digital age, you could get B&W developed just about anywhere if you were willing to wait a few days or at most a few weeks via mail order.

In the digital age it's even easier - mod the image up to anytime before printing.


29 posted on 07/26/2006 11:53:06 AM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Very Creepy...FRY EM!


30 posted on 07/26/2006 11:56:46 AM PDT by AnTh0Ny
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To: Lunatic Fringe

IMHO taken with a simple non-SLR camera with a single flash fairly close and to the left of the lens - note the blasting of the white girl's face and the location of the bulb in the black girls eyes.

I said IMHO.


31 posted on 07/26/2006 11:59:17 AM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The letters on the outfit could be "OR" (Fort W"OR"th)


32 posted on 07/26/2006 12:01:44 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Medieval Torture should be allowed for SOB's like this one. He dserves some serious pain.

He doesn't deserve free room and board at the public's expense.

For those people that care so much about HIM and his rights then let them pay for his room and board.


33 posted on 07/26/2006 12:05:35 PM PDT by seawolf101
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To: freedomlover

Maybe. Given the spacing of the letters part of the "W" should have been visible too, though if that were the case.


34 posted on 07/26/2006 12:07:47 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I'm trying to figure out the absence of a pillar post. 2 door? What about that smooth? thing to the left of the black girl's arm? If it was a door wouldn't it have a window slit?


35 posted on 07/26/2006 12:12:11 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
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To: freedomlover

correction: to the girl's left


36 posted on 07/26/2006 12:13:48 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
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To: msnimje

>>Jack Bauer, paging Jack Bauer<<

That's the ticket!


37 posted on 07/26/2006 12:14:36 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: freedomlover

We could be looking at the second row of seats in a minivan, hence no pillar post. By the way, the girl on the right looks hispanic to me.


38 posted on 07/26/2006 12:15:56 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: freedomlover
Are you talking about part of the seat? It looks like there is a seat on the right in front of the hispanic girl that is reclined, the seat on the left where the white girl is sitting is fully upright, and the head rest is raised on that seat, positioned for a much larger person.
39 posted on 07/26/2006 12:19:29 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I agree - I'll rephrase to darker skinned girl - that smooth thing isn't a forearm is it? Looks like it has a corner edge.


40 posted on 07/26/2006 12:19:33 PM PDT by freedomlover (This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
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