Posted on 07/08/2006 8:12:30 AM PDT by mathprof
Well-connected public figures report that they have been told recently by Rudolph Giuliani that, as of now, he intends to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.
The former mayor of New York was on top of last month's national Gallup poll measuring presidential preferences by registered Republicans, with 29 percent. Sen. John McCain's 24 percent was second, with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich third at 8 percent. National polls all year have shown Giuliani running either first or second to McCain, with the rest of the presidential possibilities far behind.
Republican insiders respond to these numbers by saying rank-and-file GOP voters will abandon Giuliani once they realize his position on abortion, gay rights and gun control. Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
You are replying to something I did not post.
If reality is for you flippant then maybe drugs, not an attempt at rationality, is the answer.
- Eric Boehlert
Salon.com
This entire matter of promoting the candidacy of Giuliani is but a charade to foist onto America the agenda of the liberal, Rockefeller faction of the G.O.P.
Not surprisingly it emanates from New York City - where over two centuries ago the Hamiltonians attempted to subvert and distort the American ideals so magnificently defended by Messrs. Jefferson, Madison, Monroe et al.
That's right it's all a conspiracy a couple of centuries old. LOL
Someday I will reveal it in the Giuliani Code, I'll make millions. A conspiracy handed down all the way to a Giulaini Presidency in 2008.
And then in 2009, all guns are taken away, there is forced sodomy on every street corner and abortion is performed in the Oval Office.
Job well done by our security services and that's the way it should be. After all it's their job, whether there is a war on terror or not.
Did our world come to a stop when we were engaged in a Cold War (which threatened greater devastation) for 50+ years? Hell no, our security agencies dealt with the bad guys as they do now with the exception that they didn't generate headlines.
I think you are living in an alternate world. Time to get back to the real world.
No, I live in the real world with an understanding garnered from first hand experience by having lived through it. People with limited knowledge come to limited conclusions and maintain an outlook that just because they think something is so, it makes it so.
I don't live or vote any longer in NYC. So the only way I can againt live under a competent Administration is to hope he is President.
And you vote for that candidate who is against Judicial Review. Name one.
The focus of my remarks was of Thomas J's (disapproving) opinion of judicial review. Although if I'm not mistaken Mike Pence has spoken on the matter, in much the same way as Mr. J did. I'll bring the subject up to Senator Allen when I see him at a campaign function on a later date.
Yes, you do that. Bring up the subject with Allen.
It is only in your fantasies that you can hope and imagine that any candidate who doesn't want to be considered a crackpot will ever question the principle of Judicial Review.
You get back to me when you find that candidate. Although I'm not interested if he is living with his mom and running for President from his mom's basement.
"President Bush and practically every leading candidate for 2008, support "gay rights", if gay rights mean the right of gays not to lose their jobs, or get beaten up in the subway, or get terrorized for being gay."
Of course, I think any decent human being should support these rights, IF, this is what is really meant by "gay rights." However, what I'd like to know is, under Guiliani did NYC offer homosexual employees things like health insurance for their same-sex partners. Did he push for the schools to push the homosexual agenda on the NYC public schools' students. Those sort of "gay rights" are the sort of thing that conservatives, as opposed, apparently to some Republicans, are concerned about.
Continual threats to not vote, start a third party, vilify anyone who doesn't toe the social agenda (the social agenda belongs in the states, not at the national level)...
And Julie-Annie got no votes at all...
And Julie-Annie got no votes at all...
Unless Mr. Giuliani publicly repents in torn sackloth and ashes for his positions against life, I will not vote for him under any circumstances whatsoever.
We conservatives always vote, it's just that we refuse to vote for liberals, (D) or (R). This concept, obviously alien to yourself and other like-minded folks, is termed principled.
start a third party,
Just what Jefferson and Madison did. How unrepublican of them to not blindly follow the Federalists!
vilify anyone who doesn't toe the social agenda
Who is being vilified?
(the social agenda belongs in the states, not at the national level)...
Wrong. Even Jefferson would see the futility in not restricting abortion on a nat'l scale. You see, every American, whether that person has yet to pass thru the womb or not, has the same rights afforded all under our Constitution, and these rights supersede those of the individual states.
"Thomas Jefferson wrote that, '[t]he care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government.' President Jefferson was right. Life is an inalienable right, understood as given to each of us by our Creator." --- Geo. W. Bush January 18, 2002
For starters, anyone who thinks Hitlery Clintong is the be all, end all of the '08 election has already conceded defeat, believes the left wing media driven drivel, or has other motives. I do not believe the liars in the media...
Julie-Annie is a stalking horse for the left and is the Trojan Horse non-candidate (just like he was in Hitlery's first NY senate run) and will ruin the party from within.
The only way the Left can win is to destroy the Republican Party from within. They have lost the public argument and cannot win on the issues, they have to have despotic judges do it for them and they have to undermine conservatives in the Republican primary. (This is the entire reason they have state drives for open primaries, non-partisan legislatures, messing with the electoral college and other electoral scams.)
And they are just drooling at the prospect of ruining the Republican Party by tricking the simple minded to nominate somebody like Giuliani...
The prime example and litmus issue to tell this is the left wing Holy Grail of homosexual monogamy - - something the RINOs support, along with their constant bashing of the religious folks.
I receive no benefit from the same things just because they have different designer labels:
I might has well vote for Bullwinkle, there isn't a dime's worth of difference between them. I have absolutely nothing in common with either of them and I do not like New York lawyers to begin with.
I am tired of illegal immigration and that is what people are talking about. Language, borders, culture...
The cult of personality will address none of the three and neither will Julie-Annie...
Julie-Annie can't even beat Hitlery in the New York senate race, he won't even attempt to. If he were at all serious about getting her out of the picture, he would have done it there. He is a stalking horse for the Left from the United Nations capitol... and loves the media limelight...
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