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To: CGVet58
Virtuous government flows from a virtuous people; journalism has nothing to do with it.

Eh? If propaganda is such a useless tool, why is it even used? The constant barrage of things untoward from our Ministry of Truth is not an accident, and it has an effect.

If you believe the Bible as I do, it tells us virtuous people do not occur naturally. Man's inclination is towards evil. So given a little push in that direction by the influence peddlers and, voila. The media, along with all the other agencies of the evil empire are doing their level best to boot all things God out of our country. Wonder why? The moral foundation necessary for a virtuous people to prosper has got to be destroyed. Is it working? You bet. Can it be stopped?

FGS

78 posted on 06/25/2006 9:57:43 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Still in all, it doesn't answer the underlying question that I have, that is, HOW were they able to pull it off.

See post # 65. Read that book. That is a long and good book. It explains a lot. Most of the Marxists who have great control and influence in our schools, universities, news departments and magazines, the entertainment business, and much of advertising are from Russia around the turn of the century (1900).

And yes, that author is the same weaselly Neal Gabler who is on FoxNews on Sunday morning.

;-)

80 posted on 06/25/2006 10:41:03 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: ForGod'sSake

well, sir, I believe you make my point within your own. The original question was if the quality of journalism was directly proportional to the quality of government. I believe it is not. nor can true virtue be swayed by the media, though many others can.

Virtue, or rather its rarity, are like the parable of Jesus and the 10 lepers. Though all were cured, only one returned seeking truth and a change in his life. The others went about their merry, sinful ways. So also do I see echoes of virtue in Gideon's 300. Where, how can propaganda possibly sway these?

My point in the rest of that note was that I believe the Founding Fathers have set up a mechanism whereby each generation must respond to the timeless tests that civilizations have always faced. As we face our own defining threat - islamo-fascism - we no longer really need to be reminded via reflection on our past of what is needed to defeat it. Yes, we can and should look to our ancestors for inspiration, but how or why our fathers fought should not be sought after as to whether or not we should fight our own battles. Each generation has it's test. No tests = generations who forget what was fought and bled for. Freedom and virtue are precious, and are not free. It falls to us to not just know this in our heads, but in our very souls.

We either will have it in us to face down this threat, or we won't. Our Founding Fathers are betting on the former. That was my point.

I believe, sir, your line of thought opens another discussion, but don't see a strong link between your thoughts and mine.


97 posted on 06/25/2006 5:17:50 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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