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A sign of hope for Episcopalians (Barf Alert)
The Seattle Times ^ | 6/23/06 | Robert V. Taylor

Posted on 06/22/2006 11:32:28 AM PDT by XR7

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The Very Gay Rev. Robert V. Taylor is the dean of Saint Mark's Episcopal Cathedral in Seattle and a native of Cape Town, South Africa.


1 posted on 06/22/2006 11:32:31 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Wow! This is a barfer, alright.

BTW, are there any Episcopalians left in America?


2 posted on 06/22/2006 11:34:06 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: XR7
No, there is no debate among liberals anymore. The Bible and belief in God is an option. That's post-modern Episcopalianism writ small.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

3 posted on 06/22/2006 11:34:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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...the dean of Saint Mark's Light In The Loafers Episcopal Cathedral in Seattle
4 posted on 06/22/2006 11:34:59 AM PDT by Argus
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Women in leadership no problem. Sodomites..well...


5 posted on 06/22/2006 11:43:35 AM PDT by Patrick1
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I have no problem with womeen in leadership either. The bible however, restricts the office of Bishop to married men only.

Timothy 3:2


6 posted on 06/22/2006 11:47:06 AM PDT by JusticeForAll76
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To: XR7

Time was when Episcopalian clerics took seriously Scriptures and Christian doctrine and tradition. Those days would appear to be long gone now that left-wing socialism is the new God of Episcopalians.


7 posted on 06/22/2006 11:51:13 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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8 posted on 06/22/2006 12:07:25 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: RexBeach
BTW, are there any Episcopalians left in America?

As in orthodox? Yes. And some of them are FReepers.

9 posted on 06/22/2006 12:08:19 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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"For some within the worldwide family of Anglican Christians, Bishop Jefferts Schori's election is cause for concern."

My only 'concern' is with Episcopalians who think they are Anglican. The two have become as different as Shinto is to Baptists. I'm a member of the American Anglican Church and if my church started being anything other than what it always has been for hundreds of years I'd fall away from it sooo quick.


10 posted on 06/22/2006 12:12:25 PM PDT by Leg Olam (Four out of five voices in my head say 'Go for it!')
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In fact, the conversation has been rooted in the notion of agape, or love, which allows for unity in diversity...

Agape love, one of 3 types of "love" found in the original Greek, is the unconditional love God has for us, which allows his reaching out for us, even as we were sinners. However, rooted in the very concept of agape is the notion that there is a thing called "sin".

Sin is the result of the human tendency, through free will, to chose to do things that God tells us are wrong. Agape love is not a "love" which allows all things. It is a "love" which accepts the core value of a person...even when they sin. It becomes meaningless when you take the church, an institution founded by God to help frail humans accept Christ's sacrifice and turn from their sinning, and turn it into a charade that prances around declaring that there is no such thing as sin.

11 posted on 06/22/2006 12:16:09 PM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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A sign of hope? Have they finally learned to play chess? I heard that they couldn't tell their Bishops from their Queens.


12 posted on 06/22/2006 12:19:18 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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Bishop Schori supports the idea that God makes provision for homosexual conduct. However this referenced Biblical Scripture does not support her views.

"You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination". Leviticus 18:22

The Episcopal Church appears to be deviating from the tenets of Judeo-Christian doctrines and morphing into a PC "REGRESSIVE" culture of ideology.


13 posted on 06/22/2006 12:26:33 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Argus

advanced education in the pipe organ..........sorry


14 posted on 06/22/2006 12:32:03 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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If baptism made you a full member of the body of Christ, how could that same household of God, known as the church, exclude more than half of its members from responding to a calling to ordained ministry?

If birth made you fully a human being and a member of the human family, how could one human be distinctly male and the other female with different gifts, abilities and roles. Why can't we just ordain some women as men?

Sounds the same to me...

15 posted on 06/22/2006 12:35:40 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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The bible says only married men are eligble to be a bishop.


16 posted on 06/22/2006 12:43:59 PM PDT by JusticeForAll76
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To: JusticeForAll76

Uhhh... I didn't think I needed a sarcasm tag on mine but I could be mistaken. I was rewriting his nonsense in terms of the human race and the fact that men and women are different. Saying that because women are baptized therefore they should be ordained is roughly the same as saying because women are born human they should be allowed to be fathers.


17 posted on 06/22/2006 12:46:51 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: pgyanke

I realized that after I posted.


18 posted on 06/22/2006 12:49:25 PM PDT by JusticeForAll76
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These people must think that people like Blessed Teresa of Calcutta and Saint Clare of Assisi did absolutely nothing to make a difference, just because they weren't bishops or didn't say mass.

For these people who demand to be made priests or bishops, it is not about helping people or being a role model or a person in a leadership role. Its about having power over others. And that is a very bad reason to make someone a priest or bishop.


19 posted on 06/22/2006 12:54:34 PM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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The Episcopal Church appears to be deviating long ago deviated from the tenets of Judeo-Christian doctrines and morphing morphed into a PC "REGRESSIVE" culture of ideology.

20 posted on 06/22/2006 1:05:39 PM PDT by XR7
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