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Why Did "Rights Group" Delay Revealing Haditha "Massacre"?
Sweetness & Light ^ | June 7, 2006 | N/A

Posted on 06/07/2006 3:56:26 PM PDT by Sam Hill

The man Time Magazine first described as a "budding journalism student" Thaer Thabit al-Hadithi is now portrayed as an "Iraq Investigator" by the DNC's Associated Press.

But excerpts from the AP's article raises some questions about him and his group's only other member, Abdul-Rahman al-Mashhadani:

Secretary-General of the Hammurabi Organization for Human Rights and Democracy Monitoring, and also a Haditha resident who witnessed parts of the incident, Thaer al-Hadithi, gives a detailed account of the alleged massacre of 24 Iraqis by U.S. Marines last year, to an Associated Press reporter at the offices of the group in Baghdad, Iraq Tuesday, June 6, 2006.

Iraq Investigator Tells AP About Haditha

June 7, 2006

BAGHDAD, Iraq — A small group of U.S. Marines alleged to have killed up to two dozen Iraqi civilians conducted a house-to-house hunt that stretched over three hours, while other Marines in Haditha did not intervene, according to an Iraqi human rights investigator.

The Associated Press interview of the activist is the most detailed account yet of Iraqi accusations that Marines went on a rampage after a comrade was killed by a bomb. Two separate U.S. military investigations of the incident are under way.

Thaer al-Hadithi, a member and spokesman for the Hammurabi human rights association, a Sunni Muslim group, recounted with the help of a satellite map when and where Iraqi civilians cowered and sometimes died.

The case, which came to public attention two months ago because of a video released by the Hammurabi group, is threatening to further weaken popular support for the Iraq war in the United States and has tarnished the military’s image in Iraq and around the world...

Hammurabi chairman Abdul-Rahman al-Mashhadani told the AP on Tuesday that his group was investigating other violations of Iraqi civil rights by Western forces in the mainly Sunni Arab provinces of Anbar and Salaheddin to the west and north of Baghdad. He said the group also was looking into violations by Iraqi security forces, militias and tribal clans.

"We are also against terrorism," he said...

Al-Hadithi did not attend any of the meetings between victims’ families and the U.S. military, but he based his account of what the Marines officer said on briefings from Hammurabi’s Haditha representative and conversations with the families.

Al-Mashhadani, Hammurabi’s chairman, who lectures on economics at Baghdad’s al-Mustansiriyah University, said the organization was publicizing the Haditha incident to make sure it’s not repeated...

But back in March when this story first was reported by Time Magazine we were told by Time reporter Ghosh that Thaer Thabit (aka Thabet) al-Hadithi did not want his name known out of concern for his personal safety.

Why start a human rights group if you want to remain anonymous?

But that is just the start of the many questionable aspects of Thabit’s accounts.

Bear in mind that this "budding journalism student" waited until the next day to videotape this alleged atrocity, which supposedly happened on his very doorstep.

Not that this same "budding journalism student" and self-proclaimed human rights watcher did not bother to turn over his video to a media outlet or a real human rights group from November 2005 until March 2006. A four month delay.

That’s how eager they were to make sure such a crime is never again repeated.

And look at the Thabit's partner at Hammurabi, Abdul-Rahman al-Mashhadani .

Al-Mashhadani is described in a December 15, 2005 article from the Institute For War And Peace as an election monitor. In fact, he expressed great satisfaction with the turnout in the Iraqi elections:

Abdul-Rahman al-Mashhadani, an election monitor in Baghdad with the non-governmental organisation Hamurabi, said no major violations occurred in Baghdad. He expected 90 per cent turnout in Sunni Arab areas.

(Which is quite ironic, given that only 150 people out of 90,000 dare to risk their lives to vote in the earlier October referendum in Haditha.)

But if Abdul-Rahman al-Mashhadani was talking to the media in December about the election turnout, why didn't he tell them then about this alleged atrocity at Haditha that had just occurred three weeks before?

Wasn't that the purpose in starting the Hammurabi group?

It just doesn't make sense.


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Why did they wait four months to tell anyone about this?
1 posted on 06/07/2006 3:56:28 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Howlin; Deb; kcvl; Mo1; Enchante; nopardons; veronica; KJC1; stocksthatgoup; mewzilla; backhoe; ...

Fishy time line ping.


2 posted on 06/07/2006 3:58:23 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

bttt


3 posted on 06/07/2006 3:59:22 PM PDT by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: Sam Hill

It takes time to manufacture quality evidence.

They learned that from Dan Rather.


4 posted on 06/07/2006 4:00:25 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Sam Hill

This rat gets bigger and bigger every day...and smells more and more.


5 posted on 06/07/2006 4:02:13 PM PDT by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: Sam Hill
He looks like a go***mn child pornographer.
6 posted on 06/07/2006 4:05:59 PM PDT by Jaysun (In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.)
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To: Sam Hill
Because it was a set up.
7 posted on 06/07/2006 4:06:10 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Sam Hill

The propaganda arm of Al-Qaeda.


8 posted on 06/07/2006 4:09:15 PM PDT by magslinger (WWJBD? What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: Sam Hill

Terrorist: "Trust me. Trust NBC,ABC,CBS,PBS, and al-Jazerra.
And don't get any ideas or look at my computer."

9 posted on 06/07/2006 4:10:23 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Sam Hill

Thank you for this info. Very interesting. These guys should be watched very closely.


10 posted on 06/07/2006 4:11:16 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("These are not dark days, these are great days." – W. S. Churchill)
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To: Sam Hill

Too far away from the Congressional elections at that point. Whether this guy is actually trying to hurt Bush or not isn't as relevant as the fact that the publicity machine he must use, is.


11 posted on 06/07/2006 4:11:31 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sam Hill

Excellent job. Thank you for your posts on this topic (and many others of interest).


12 posted on 06/07/2006 4:12:50 PM PDT by KJC1 (Ant overboard! Hammerhead shark feeding frenzy!)
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"Why did they wait four months to tell anyone about this?"

An excellent question! The answer lies with one or more of the following points: (1) wait for optimal propaganda moment; (2) wait for optimal personal propaganda contact such as meeting the TIME mag. bozo from Beserkley; (3) takes time to manufacture the desired evidence; (4) prompt coalition investigation in Nov. 2005 could have blown apart the propaganda set-up, now it's difficult or impossible to disprove jihadist assertions..... And so on....... these fraudulent "human rights" jihadists must be exposed and discredited. Whatever went on in Haditha, these two are far from credible sources for anything.
13 posted on 06/07/2006 4:13:44 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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"Why did they wait four months to tell anyone about this?"

They didn't. They spoke to Capt McConnell about it, no later than early Dec. That includes Iraqi Time employees. Those employees pressed Time to do a story, because the bad press release gave it the appearance of a coverup. Time spoke to to Lt Col Johnson in Jan.

14 posted on 06/07/2006 4:19:38 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Enchante
Back in March when this story first was reported by Time Magazine we were told by Time reporter Ghosh (via Democracy Now!) that Thaer Thabit (aka Thabet) al-Hadithi did not want his name known out of concern for his personal safety:

AMY GOODMAN: And then, this Haditha journalism student, who is this student?

APARISIM GHOSH: We’d rather not say, for his own protection, but he’s a young local man. It’s not uncommon in Iraq for young people to have video cameras and cameras, and there's so much going on in their lives that they have plenty to shoot.

AMY GOODMAN: And you got a hold of this, or Hammurabi Human Rights got a hold of this.

APARISIM GHOSH: He brought the tape to Hammurabi Human Rights, which is a local human rights group, and they brought it to us once they found out that we were inquiring about this.


15 posted on 06/07/2006 4:21:08 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; Howlin


I smell Michael Moore and his terrorist cameramen again


16 posted on 06/07/2006 4:31:56 PM PDT by devolve (fx AMERICANS_KILLED_IN_2003_BY_ILLEGALS FBI-DOJ_REPORT_4380+4745=9125 NO__NUEVO__TEJAS!)
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To: airborne

It takes time to manufacture quality evidence.

They learned that from Dan Rather.
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Actually, they probably learned from Rather that if the timing was right you didn't need any evidence. Simply make up the story to fit your desired outcome and start yelling to the MSM traitor brigade. As Rush has said many times, "It isn't the evidence, its the seriousness of the charge."


17 posted on 06/07/2006 4:33:01 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Sam Hill

Okay, there is one time line that has confused me from the beginning of this...

I thought that Muslims believe that they have to bury their dead on the day they die...

If this is true,...could this so-called massacre happen, the guy with the video camera go to the house, video all of this...and then the Marines or whoever, go to the house and take the bodies to the hospital...all in one day??


18 posted on 06/07/2006 4:33:42 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Sam Hill; delacoert; Coop; Velveeta; Txsleuth; txflake; jazusamo

Beyond fishy. It's false propaganda.

The Sweetness and Light guys (gals?) are doing good work


19 posted on 06/07/2006 4:34:39 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Did I read somewhere that one of our guys had meetings with local leaders for weeks after and no one mentioned this "massacre" to him either?


20 posted on 06/07/2006 4:38:41 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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