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To: puroresu

'That's true. But we know that the Supreme Court in 1967 ordered the states to sanction interracial marriage. We have every expectation that they'll eventually (within the decade) do so with gay "marriage" as well. '


This is the problem social conservatives face. The feds are not going to pass an ammendment on the basis of Biblical scripture. There has to be an empirical and clearly defined reason for why it is acceptable to allow one couple to marry (male/female, black/white) and not another. That means proving that gay marriage is a threat to the liberty and personal safety of the majority. Unfortunately, no one can make that case. All they can argue is that it isn't traditional and it goes against what they believe. Precisely the same arguments used against interacial marriage (although not even scriptue was available to the opposition in that case). Such arguments have no weight unless someone repeals the 1st Ammendment any time soon.

If widely credited statistics accumulated proving that married gays were more likely to turn into suicide bombers, and/or molest little children than straights and unmarried gays, then there might be a case that would stick. As of now, even if an ammendment was passed now through clever political manoevring, it would certainly be repealed within 10 yrs. The interacial marriage issue has already placed a firm precedent against banning marriage between any other consenting human beings.

Ultimately, the fight against it is in vain and prolonging the inevitable. And also distracting conservatives from far more important issues IMHO.


321 posted on 06/07/2006 11:06:47 AM PDT by Incitatus
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To: Incitatus
Precisely the same arguments used against interacial marriage (although not even scriptue was available to the opposition in that case).

Actually, it was; see e.g. Ezra 9:1-4.

322 posted on 06/07/2006 11:41:12 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: Incitatus

It has nothing to do with Biblical scripture, unless you assume that gay "marriage" is the norm in Buddhist, Hindu, Shintoist, and Islamic societies.

The fact that homosexuality is unnatural is enough reason to not sanction homosexual "marriage" (and I put marriage in quotes because two people of the same sex can't marry).

Homosexual "marriage" does indeed lead to a loss of liberty for the majority population. It will lead to additional federal and judicial control of education. It will lead to loss of tax exempt status for churches which don't obey government dictates on this issue. It will lead to more laws telling people who they can hire and who they can sell or rent their own property to. It will lead to more government control of private organizations. It will lead to more regulation of speech. It will outright override religious liberty for many business owners. And so forth.

It will also lure more children into the gay subculture as these unnatural pairings are prddled to kids in the public schools.

It's as ludicrous to sanction a "marriage" between two men as it is to sanction a "marriage" between a man and a Toyota, or a man and a water buffalo. Marriage **IS** the bonding of male and female. Gay "marriages" are simply play-acting.

Assuming you're a caucasian male, do you find other men equally as sexually attractive as you find Japanese women? If not, then you should be able to see the difference between same-sex "marriage" and interracial marriage.


323 posted on 06/07/2006 12:32:01 PM PDT by puroresu
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