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To: in hoc signo vinces
I am not in the "open border" crowd. I am in the anti-hysteria...this has been around for 30 years...why is this now being used to bash bush crowd, understand?

What we are seeing is unprecedented. It didn't just happen on Bush's watch, but over decades. We are witnessing an invasion. Based on US census data, the number of states where Mexican-born residents are the largest group increased from 18 in 1990 to 30 states today. One out of every 8 Californians was born in Mexico and about one out of every three Californians is Hispanic.

The foreign-born population of the United States is currently 33.1 million, equal to 11.5 percent of the U.S. population. Of this total, the Census Bureau estimates 8-9 million are illegal immigrants. Other estimates indicate a considerably higher number of illegal immigrants, 20 to 25 million. \

Approximately 1 million people receive permanent residency annually. In addition, the Census Bureau estimates a net increase of 500,000 illegal immigrants annually.

The present level of immigration is significantly higher than the average historical level of immigration. This flow may be attributed, in part, to the extraordinary broadening of U.S. immigration policy in 1965. Since 1970, more than 30 million legal and illegal immigrants have settled in the U.S., representing more than one-third of all people ever to come to America's shores.

At the peak of the Great Wave of immigration in 1910, the number of immigrants living in the U.S. was less than half of what it is today, though the percentage of the population was slightly higher. The annual arrival of 1.5 million legal and illegal immigrants, coupled with 750,000 annual births to immigrant women, is the determinate factor— or three-fourths— of all U.S. population growth.

We have lost control over our borders, which, after 9/11, is unacceptable. We can't allow our intake of immigrants to be determined by anyone who can cross the border. The reason that the problem of illegal immigration is becoming more visible has more to do with the growing number of illegals than it has to do with alarmists. It is a problem no longer confined to the border states. many

92 posted on 05/08/2006 2:09:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Sine 9-11 23000 Americans have been murdered by illegals, and thats only the ones we caught. How many Americans has Al Qaida killed since 9-11? 5000 at the most. The border issue is just as import and directly tied to the WOT.
101 posted on 05/08/2006 2:20:08 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: kabar
I'd like to add to your counterpoints

this has been around for 30 years

NO IT HASN"T !

W/1986 Amnesty the whole famdamnily wasn't allowed US citizenship.
Application's had to be made.

Since '86 our brown brothers to the south have noticed there are no consequences to being here illegally..... & with their dependents to boot

30 years ago it was just the illegal worker - not his dozen dependents soaking up all the services they can...
and resenting us in the process

110 posted on 05/08/2006 2:25:56 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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