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To: dirtboy


Yeah...that's right...I am the one claiming that Mexafornia is going to exist.

I am the one lacking common sense in thinking that maybe, just maybe, Bush hasnt advocated amnesty...do a little research...that is a wild claim, and a perpetuated myth on these threads by those looking to bash the administration on immigration. That maybe, DHS has increased funding to border control...that maybe Bush has made overtures to Vicente Fox, that there are things being done.

But, my point, the current situation is being fueled by political opportunists with little or no real solution to the problem (or worse wild hair brained ideas), only an agenda to remove the Republican leadership...sick of that krap.

I could go on...but my blood pressure can't take the intellectually dishonest people who routinely post on the threads about "doomsday" illegal immigration woes.


33 posted on 05/08/2006 1:10:08 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: in hoc signo vinces
no real solution to the problem

They are asking for the federal government to ENFORCE the LAW. THAT is the solution.

Or are you complaining because they have no solution that allows criminal employers to keep reaping the benefits of illegal labor?
38 posted on 05/08/2006 1:13:57 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

"I am the one lacking common sense in thinking that maybe, just maybe, Bush hasnt advocated amnesty"

Yes, you are correct.You are lacking common sense.

Press 1 for English.


65 posted on 05/08/2006 1:42:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
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To: in hoc signo vinces
Yeah...that's right...I am the one claiming that Mexafornia is going to exist.

A lot of folks in the illegal camp feel that way. And Kosovo shows what happens when separatist passions are coupled with massive population growth of the same demographic.

I am the one lacking common sense in thinking that maybe, just maybe, Bush hasnt advocated amnesty

No, but history shows what he is promoting amounts to a de facto amnesty.

...do a little research...that is a wild claim, and a perpetuated myth on these threads by those looking to bash the administration on immigration. That maybe, DHS has increased funding to border control

Not nearly enough in a post-911 world.

But, my point, the current situation is being fueled by political opportunists with little or no real solution to the problem (or worse wild hair brained ideas), only an agenda to remove the Republican leadership...sick of that krap.

Sorry, but most folks I see on my side would like nothing more than for Bush to do his job in securing the border. They have come to this point because of Bush's actions, not because of some ulterior agenda. And Bush could arrest this overnight by dropping his guest worker program and coming out soundly behind the House bill.

But what has he done? Caucaused with Senate Dems and RINOs while excluding Senate conservatives.

I could go on...but my blood pressure can't take the intellectually dishonest people who routinely post on the threads about "doomsday" illegal immigration

As you disparage the motives of those against illegal immigration? Spare me the righteous indignation.

93 posted on 05/08/2006 2:10:25 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
but my blood pressure can't take the intellectually dishonest people who routinely post on the threads about "doomsday" illegal immigration woes.

Bush hasnt advocated amnesty...do a little research

We have and your argument doesn't stand up. "Family valuse don't stop at the border" remember that one.

That maybe, DHS has increased funding to border control

Surely you jest, The President has refused to spend the money made available for new border patrol. I will give him a little credit for wanting to put monitoring devices on the border so we can watch the illegals jump the border. He is a little shady on what happens after we watch them come accross. Once the get here they must be given a hearing before a judge, an infinitismal number actually show up, but they don't leave either.

but my blood pressure can't take the intellectually honest people who routinely post on the threads about "doomsday" illegal immigration woes.

Get used to it, the people are waking up.

Complied from the L.A Times:
1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County (L.A. County has 10 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants, working without a green card.

2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3's of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 25% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A.County 5.1 million people speak English. 3.9 million speak Spanish (10.2 million people in L.A.County).

(All 10 above compiled from articles in the Los Angeles Times)

1. Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare.

2. Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration.

3. The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [source: Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University].

4. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average adult Mexican immigrant is a NEGATIVE.

5. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

190 posted on 05/09/2006 7:57:56 AM PDT by itsahoot
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