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Stunning facts about the proposed immigration bill
NRO ^ | 4-6-06 | Mark Levin

Posted on 04/08/2006 9:32:07 PM PDT by JustPiper

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To: La Enchiladita

> DieHard, if you have some personal grievance you wish to air, in my opinion it would be better if you just start a vanity thread of your own. We would really like to keep this thread for the purpose intended.

No personal grievance, happy to stay off your thread. Hope that Xenophobia doesn't make you lot think poorly of Immigrants. Speaking generally, we are an asset to any Nation that takes us in.

That is all. Out.


201 posted on 04/09/2006 10:44:25 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: ElPatriota

Don't forget. Ted Kennedy is Public Enemy #1 on this issue.

He is trying for a repeat of the disastrous 1986 amnesty that opened the floodgates.

He hasn't stayed in office by being stupid. He knows they vote Dem.


202 posted on 04/09/2006 10:44:51 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Is this a nation, or a halfway house for illegals ... ? .... SECURE. THE. BORDER.)
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To: La Enchiladita
This thread was established as a gathering place for patriotic Americans who want to secure our southern border and reverse the invasion of unlawful aliens into our sovereign nation, the United States.

The baiters somehow manage to find their way on every thread of every forum out there.

203 posted on 04/09/2006 10:48:06 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


204 posted on 04/09/2006 10:49:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: La Enchiladita; JustPiper
I tried to read the entire thread, and haven't seen this yet, but please forgive me if it's a dupe.

To anyone new to the immigration issue, worth reading Phyllis Schafly's article about why there may be such lack of security on the border:

CFR's Plan to Integrate the U.S., Mexico and Canada

205 posted on 04/09/2006 10:49:26 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Doing the jobs that patriots won't do...?


206 posted on 04/09/2006 10:49:36 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Is this a nation, or a halfway house for illegals ... ? .... SECURE. THE. BORDER.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
When I emigrated, I went thru due process: nothing wrong with that.

Thank you for posting that, that is all anyone is saying! You stand in line, you don't jump in front of it and walk through without due process like you own the place. We have millions upon millions who are doing this and they're all from one country! You expect us not to be angry? There are people all over the world who want to come to America, legally. Christian Sudanese are being killed, I'm sure they'd love to come. You of all people who did the right thing and followed procedure should be on our side!

207 posted on 04/09/2006 10:54:31 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl

> You of all people who did the right thing and followed procedure should be on our side!

And I am.


208 posted on 04/09/2006 10:58:58 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Doing the jobs that patriots won't do...?

They're just a noisy, tiny minority. Some them I even suspect are being paid for their efforts.

209 posted on 04/09/2006 11:01:18 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: La Enchiladita

Oops, I didn't read your #196 before I posted my #207.

Alrighty then, moving forward....what can I do to help?


210 posted on 04/09/2006 11:02:15 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: nicmarlo; La Enchiladita
Nic - Ping to new ongoing thread!

This thread was established as a gathering place for patriotic Americans who want to secure our southern border and reverse the invasion of unlawful aliens into our sovereign nation, the United States.

211 posted on 04/09/2006 11:05:16 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: La Enchiladita
Just as I thought...

This is no "symbol of peace." Another LIE.

212 posted on 04/09/2006 11:08:49 AM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: La Enchiladita
To me this is sort of "public relations" battle as well. I am just worry that we on our side have not found the right "tone" in order to fight this battle. I guess, it is impossible to find consensus on this as many people feel differently, as my very position indicates. The next two weeks will be critical.. if we can not come up with a "reasonable argument" we can use to persuade our politicians, they will just go ahead and find the way to pass it as they almost did this week. I mean, when the president himself, basically said "to hell with security, just get them in because our economy needs them" in addition to his "compassionate conservatism" crap... to impress those waffling senators will be an uphill battle.
213 posted on 04/09/2006 11:17:36 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: EternalVigilance

I love that picture!


214 posted on 04/09/2006 11:19:16 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ElPatriota
I am just worry that we on our side have not found the right "tone" in order to fight this battle.

Do you have any suggestions, ideas? Get two heads together you can come up with two great ideas, get a hundred together, well, you get the gist. So far we have complained, what can we do to make good things happen?

215 posted on 04/09/2006 11:23:59 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: JustPiper
Thanks! Are you starting your own Lou Dobbs list?

I'm not familiar with Lou Dobbs. Does he have a boycott list?

216 posted on 04/09/2006 11:34:25 AM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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217 posted on 04/09/2006 11:38:11 AM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: garandgal
Could you save me some time and give me a link to that article about Hagel? Every now and then I sleep, and must have slept through that one -- lol.

I don't know much about the secretary of agriculture, but if there is documentation that he aided and abetted illegals, then he should be a target as well.

218 posted on 04/09/2006 11:43:31 AM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: ozarkgirl
Do you have any suggestions, ideas? Get two heads together you can come up with two great ideas, get a hundred together

Well, I think FR is doing a fantastic job just by participating and discusing the issue here in all its shades. I happen to believe that FR is read by some members of the media. After all, FR is big enough and mostly represent the points of view of regular Republicans in the nation a large. I am specially proud of the fact we seem to be able to speak without insulting one another for the most part, and even bother to keep profanity in check for the benefit of those who may not like it. All this speaks well for our side.

HOWEVER, when it comes to actually contacting our politicians, it would help if we had some sort of consistent message that sounds reasonable and logical, otherwise what are they to do? I like the article by Charles Krauthammer I already discussed because he manages to explain the point so clearly and yet it doesn't sound radical or hateful, but rather logical and practical. And that is key in convincing people to our side. I believe.

I for one will use it to make my points to our politicos next week.

219 posted on 04/09/2006 11:48:34 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I'm an immigrant -- not to America. New Zealand is now my home, by choice. I've paid top tax bracket dollars since landing here. NZ is my home, and I'd fight and die for my right to be a Citizen (which I now am).

If you consider yourself comparable to those who come here illegally, never apply for permits or citizenship and don't want to who are any of us to argue?

No, America's biggest weakness is bigotry. Go read the base of the Statue of Liberty. True or False?

It's a statement of sentiment not a law. Besides, didn't a Frenchman write that?

220 posted on 04/09/2006 11:52:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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