[Full Court]

The thief died under the old law of Moses, not the new law of Liberty under Chist Jesus. You are talking about two different dispensations.

Quack, don't listen to these quacks.

Romans 4:9  ¶Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.

Romans 4:16  Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Galatians 3:6  ¶Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

Ephesians 2:8  For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9  Not of works, lest any man should boast.

[yukong]

And? Your Point? Proves my point actually.

And there you go again calling people names. It that all you have now in defense of your position is to call those who challenge your beliefs names. Nice way to defend the Gospel...call those who ask you to defend your beliefs names. Really flys in the face of that stuff you have posted on your FR home page about how to be a Godly Christian woman. I'm sure God is proud of how a supposed "Godly woman" calls others unkind names and accuses them of being liars. Great example there FC.

[LucyJo]

Abraham was not under the law of Moses (the circumcision), of course, nor was he an alien sinner who didn't know, and obey, God. He had demonstrated an obedient faith on many occasions by obeying the commands of God because of his faith in Him.

Remember that he obediently left his home and went to a land that God showed him? He offered up Isaac as a sacrifice, just as God later sacrificed His Son.

His was an obedient faith that was "reckoned to Abraham for righteousness".

I believe it shows that faith also should lead us to obey the commands of God in order to receive His grace today.