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To: UNflagburner
I suspect the factor there is simple fear on their part that the program is a trick to get them deported.

So let me see if I get this straight. We try the same thing all over again and expect there to be a different result? Isn't that the definition of stupidity? Expecting a new result when all the parameters are the same? We offer amnesty this go around and guest worker cards and this will reduce illegal immigration?

Oooh, look, we can again excuse the majority who don't participate because they're afraid this is a trick to deport them. Whee. Nothing has changed, yet again, aside from yet another wave of illegals followed by another wave followed by another wave, plus a resident alien population who thinks that it's about time we recognize that this should be Mexico...

So rather than play this game all over again, put in and enforce laws that punish employers who hire illegals. Seize companies and businesses run and operated by illegals. Put in targeted enforcement of sales tax laws especially where they have traditionally been ignored. End all state support of illegals. And then deport those too stubborn to do it themselves.
600 posted on 03/28/2006 9:12:39 PM PST by kingu (Liberalism: The art of sticking your fingers in your ears and going NANANANA..)
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To: kingu

Look, I don't buy your assumption that the illegals don't want to become legal.
But we can set up a solution that easily deals with this issue. Only those on the path to citizenship get to work via goldcard or such. So provide the economy with the labor desired, and then I'm all for punishing the employers who go around the system for whatever reason.


613 posted on 03/28/2006 9:22:43 PM PST by UNflagburner
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Support the Minuteman:
~A Great Speech byChris Simcox

Illegal Alien Mobs Take to the Streets...
…Demanding US Citizens' Rights
Minuteman Civil Defense Corps Says NO!

Senate Ready to Pass Amnesty for Illegal Aliens --
Help Stop it NOW!

This weekend we saw something very disturbing. An illegal alien mob came out of the shadows by the hundreds of thousands and descended on Phoenix, Denver and Los Angeles.

Like an invading horde, they demanded US citizen rights, but without any citizen duties, responsibilities, loyalties. Has our beloved America become France?

Are riots in the streets and the burning of cars in Washington DC next?

The media estimates that almost one million illegal foreign migrants and their advocates militantly marched in the streets of America under the flag of Mexico. Their agenda is for our federal laws to be ignored, and their criminal trespass into these sovereign United States to be rewarded with unlimited benefits that include the rights of American citizenship!

As these large mobs of foreigners marched proudly under the flag of a foreign country to demand the right to live and prosper in the United States, they claimed that the issue is immigration. But their own actions reveal what is in fact a determined effort to force Americans to accept large foreign colonies in our midst, and to pay handsomely for the privilege of doing so. We have both the right and the moral obligation to defend America, and “just say ‘No!’”

Millions of law abiding US citizens understand what is at stake, and wonder what our response should be to sedition, intimidation and acts of defiance against our republic and our ordered liberty. Providentially, the patriotic American response recommences this week... The Minutemen.

The Minutemen say, as loyal Americans have always said, “Immigration, yes—colonization, no!”

The Mexican government, Open Borders, MEChA, LULAC and other left-wing organizations are all demanding that the US violate our Constitution, compromise our national security and national sovereignty, and undermine the rule of law.

Millions of illegal aliens and their handlers are shouting: "No nations, No borders” and “Our 'rights' trump the US, its Constitution, its citizens and its laws.”

And they're becoming more vocal and activist every day.

But their objective is not true citizenship; what they demand is absent any of the duties, responsibilities and loyalties incumbent to sustain America.

Illegal aliens in America are here only because they are guilty of criminal violation

of our federal laws, ‘jumping’ our borders and living in a shadowy underground economy. They are morally culpable for shoving aside those who adhere to the law and enter these United States in orderly and legal fashion. Since when do criminals and cheaters receive pride of place for the blessings of liberty, over those honestly, earnestly and faithfully seeking to become American citizens?

This is more than a wakeup call—it is an affront to requirements of responsible self-government.

How did this happen? Our government did not do its job and enforce the rule of law . Instead it has looked the other way as international criminal syndicates, drug cartels, foreign governments, and radical advocacy groups work to destroy the very foundations of the constitutional rights so many Americans have fought for and died to protect.

What will the politicians in Washington do now?Follow the rule of law and represent the 92 PERCENT OF AMERICANS WHO WANT the US BORDERS SECURED? Or will they make common cause with radical globalists, “free-trade” ideologues, and big business lobbyists seeking to exploit cheap foreign labor—even if it creates a new migrant slave class within our borders?

President Bush has called for a reasonable and civil debate over the issues of border security and immigration reform. But the American people understand there can be no responsible immigration reform UNTIL OUR BORDERS ARE SECURE. “Guest worker” amnesty programs ARE NOT a part of border security. As radical illegal aliens mob the streets of Los Angeles, we are forced to wonder, “Maybe it is already too late for a fence? “

It is CRITICAL that you ACT TODAY! If we can FLOOD the offices of these Senators with TENS OF THOUSANDS of faxes, demanding that they REJECT any "guest worker" amnesty bill, we CAN stop the dangerous Specter-Kennedy sell-out dead in its tracks.


640 posted on 03/28/2006 10:04:21 PM PST by JustPiper (Illegal Protesting Jihad going on)
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