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US army patented bioagent dispencer in 2003
United States Patent and Trademark Office ^ | February 25, 2003 | Gonzalez, et al.

Posted on 03/15/2006 9:47:25 AM PST by S0122017

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1 posted on 03/15/2006 9:47:30 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Are all bio and chemical agents lethal?


2 posted on 03/15/2006 9:51:13 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: frogjerk

No.


3 posted on 03/15/2006 9:51:57 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: S0122017

It says it's an empty container, then there's speculation that all sorts of stuff could be used - pepper spray, smoke, crowd control agents, biological agents, chemical agents, obscurants, marking agents, dyes and inks, chaffs and flakes.

It's a catch-all statement - that's how patents are written.

Making a chemical warfare boogeyman out of this will be as successful as the attempt about 9 months ago by the European press to say the US's use of White Phosphorus projectiles and grenades amounted to chemical warfare.


4 posted on 03/15/2006 9:53:24 AM PST by Sax
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To: frogjerk

Unless they plan to spread the common cold virus, yes.
Besides, they coined the terms 'bioagents' in the war against terror, as something very lethal that terrorists use. Not to mention that the concept of any weapon based on live biological organisms is outlawed by conventions.


5 posted on 03/15/2006 9:54:26 AM PST by S0122017 (I know something you don't know. If you know something I don't know, we can trade.)
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Good to see we're getting some sort of "bang for the buck" out of our
government.
They hardly do anything else well.


7 posted on 03/15/2006 9:55:38 AM PST by VOA
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To: Sax

Regardless, it is incredibly stupid to use those terms.
You might as well patent an explosive and state that it can be use for terrorism!


8 posted on 03/15/2006 9:56:02 AM PST by S0122017 (I know something you don't know. If you know something I don't know, we can trade.)
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To: Prokopton
No.

That's what I thought.

9 posted on 03/15/2006 9:57:35 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: S0122017
Unless they plan to spread the common cold virus, yes. Besides, they coined the terms 'bioagents' in the war against terror, as something very lethal that terrorists use. Not to mention that the concept of any weapon based on live biological organisms is outlawed by conventions

So you are assuming this rifle has no other application than in war, right?

I really don't understand the big deal here.

10 posted on 03/15/2006 10:01:10 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: Sax
By that definition, every explosive ever made would be chemical warfare.
11 posted on 03/15/2006 10:02:23 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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By that definition, every explosive ever made would be chemical warfare.

From your keyboard to DU's talking points...

12 posted on 03/15/2006 10:04:13 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: 4bbldowndraft

Gunpowder is a made through a process chemical too. Gunpowder burns fast, Willy Pete's burn slower and longer.

A burning substance like gunpowder, napalm, WP is considered conventional weaponry. They're not nerve agents, blistering agents, or choking agents.

Burn, bludgeon and pierce to death - ok

Chemically choke, blister, or shut down the nervous system to cause death - not ok

Of course warfare and rules have a very tenuous relationship.


13 posted on 03/15/2006 10:05:03 AM PST by Sax
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To: frogjerk

The problem? You don't see it?
No matter how you define bioagents, the official definition is that of a weapon. No weapon designer or researcher in their right mind would include it as 'potential use'. It would immediately classify the weapon as being part of outlawed weaponry.

And it doesn't matter what it will be used for in the end, what matters is that someone expected it to be used for war, and possibly for dispersal of outlawed agents.
How can the US army confront terror countries because of their bio and chemical weapons, if they are cosnidering their own?


14 posted on 03/15/2006 10:07:05 AM PST by S0122017 (I know something you don't know. If you know something I don't know, we can trade.)
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Since we have such a tough time proscecuting Terrorists and Dictators for their actual deeds, this way we can get them for patent infringement.


15 posted on 03/15/2006 10:11:18 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: S0122017

Mace is a chemical agent

Pepper Spray is a biological agent

They need to be covered by the patent. The definition does not infere the use of chemical warfare as banned by the Hague, Geneva Convention, or other international law. This is just simply a legal definition of a product.


16 posted on 03/15/2006 10:16:14 AM PST by Sax
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To: S0122017

take a deep breath and relax. When the reality fairy sprinkles rational thought dust on you everything will be otay.


17 posted on 03/15/2006 10:17:19 AM PST by ping jockey (radical islam; the great evil of all times.)
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To: S0122017

take a deep breath and relax. When the reality fairy sprinkles rational thought dust on you everything will be otay.


18 posted on 03/15/2006 10:17:50 AM PST by ping jockey (radical islam; the great evil of all times.)
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Since we have such a tough time proscecuting Terrorists and Dictators for their actual deeds, this way we can get them for patent infringement.

Hah, that's actually quite funny.
19 posted on 03/15/2006 10:20:20 AM PST by S0122017 (I know something you don't know. If you know something I don't know, we can trade.)
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Rifle-launched non-lethal cargo dispenser

That's the title. You posted it.

20 posted on 03/15/2006 10:21:18 AM PST by Billthedrill
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