This is what I don't understand...everyone here wants Roe v. Wade to be overturned...and go back to the States. The majority of states will keep it legal...what then happens to your mission?
Just because we want it to go back to the states doesn't mean that we don't want to influence what the states choose to do.
Work to make it illegal in those states .... duh
####This is what I don't understand...everyone here wants Roe v. Wade to be overturned...and go back to the States. The majority of states will keep it legal...what then happens to your mission?####
Here are a few points:
A) Roe v. Wade is flat-out unconstitutional. It should be overturned as a matter of principle even if it doesn't result in a single abortion being halted.
B) Even if abortion remains legal in many states, those of us in conservative states will be able to wash the blood off our hands by seeking bans in our own states. At the very least it will make life harder for abortionists. They'll have to congregate in the "death states", and even then they'll never know when that state might see a change in values that forces them to pack up and move elsewhere.
C) Pro-lifers are in this for the long haul. We understand that there are regions where peoples' morals are lower, where a "gutter morality" prevails. But over time that will change. Younger people are more pro-life than their elders. As time passes, even states like New York and California can become pro-life. For example, in the referendum on parental notification last year in California, the pro-life side lost by a few points, but among the rapidly growing Hispanic population, we won.
This site gives one a reason to ponder the enormity of the obscenity that the current Roe vs. Wade wrought.
That's why I want a constitutional amendment.
No judicial activism. No out of state murders.
Our federal government prosecutes those who engage in sex with minors under 18 (regardless of the age of consent in your home state) in other countries as an effort to clam down on sexual tourism. I would rank infanticide as an even more horrific crime.
Fifty out of fifty states had laws protrecting the child en ventre sa mere before Roe vs Wade. Fifty out of fifty. All these laws --- representing an amazing political near-consensus --- were struck down by Supreme Court diktat
At that time, some people argued that legal abortion would eliminate out-of-wedlock childbearing, eliminate child abuse ("every child a wanted child"), and curb abortion-related mortality, and that abortion would be a rare occurrence mostly in heartbreaking cases.
Now, 33 years later, we know that that was all a huge mistake. Out-of-wedlock births have soared; child abuse is far worse now than it was in the 1950's and '60's; maternal deaths from legal abortion have replaced deaths from illegal abortion one-for-one; and far from being rare, abortion has snuffed almost 50 million who would today be American citizens aged newborn - 33.
We know too much now to tolerate abortion "at any time, by anyone, for any reason or no reason at all."
Most states will restrict. Mark my words.
Going back to the real fight.. which is changing the hearts and minds of the people in that state. Not having 9 ruling justices who sit there for 30 years tell us what to do.
That isn't what I want. The overturning of Roe vs. Wade should make clear that all States must have laws prohibiting abortion, and that the laws must be enforced as vigorously as the laws enforcing against the commission of capital murder.
"No state shall ... deprive any person of life ... without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." (14th Amendment, US Constitution)
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government" (Article 4, Section 4, US Constitution)
"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life ..." (Declaration of Independence)
A new person is created at the time of conception, genetically distinct from Mother and Father.
The 14th Amendment requires that the States treat all persons equally, and not allow them to be deprived of life without due process.
Article 4 Section 4 requires that the US Government must guarantee a Republican form of government in all States, which would necessarily include the upholding of Common Law (under which abortion was considered murder and prohibited), and also require the upholding of laws against murder to protect all persons, since as the Declaration of Independence makes clear, the right to life is one of the founding self-evident principals of our country. A State that permits some of its inhabitants to be legally murdered is an arbitrary, erratic and autocratic despotate.
The Rights of States here is not whether or not they will permit abortion to be legal, but what manner of punishment they will attach to the crime - fines, disbarrment from the medical profession, jail time, or execution.
If a State can legalize abortion by defining the unborn as non-persons, then it can also arbitrarily define any other class of innocent people it wishes as non-persons - the Handicapped, the Elderly, Jews, Catholic Priests, Business Owners, Independent Farmers, etc., and rescind the legal protection of the murder laws from that class of persons. Haven't we seen where this goes already in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, Holland, Spain, etc., in the last century?