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To: Boiler Plate

DK
Then why isn't there life on Venus and Mercury? While you're at it please provide some serious scientific evidence for your statement.
Thanks.
Boiler Plate

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You asserted a violation of the second law of thermo...I blew your @ss out of the water because you have no clue what the second law is. If you chose to say that life must exist everywhere that follows the second law...well, that is your problem. Explain away.

By the way, it is your obligation to supply proof when you assert something. It is not my obligation to prove a negative.

You asserted a second law violation, what is your evidence?

Face it, you really don't understand how to apply the second law.

I have major disagreements with ToEs and their importance to the advancement of science. Anyone one this forum would agree with my position being consistent.

You asserted a second law violation, I informed you of the second law system that would allow disorganization in the sun to allow greater organization to take place on the Earth.

It does not require life on venus or mercury.

Consider yourself spanked. Go out there and do better, be mean to me but do it well.

Study more about the second law, and become a good physicist.

I wish you all the best!

DK


113 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:21 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: Dark Knight
You asserted a violation of the second law of thermo...I blew your @ss out of the water because you have no clue what the second law is. If you chose to say that life must exist everywhere that follows the second law...well, that is your problem. Explain away.

DK,
You may have mistook my ass for your nose. Please, if you are so informed about the the 2nd law, explain how thermal energy from the sun is used to organize information on the earth.

The violation of the 2nd law is this. 1st there is no such as a closed system. There are Always losses and gains in and out of any system. In regards to our solar system the are much greater losses than gains. 2nd in spite of those losses the solar system can be cosidered closed for modeling purposes which brings back to the problem of increasing entropy in that system. 3rd There is no mechanism outside of life itself for making use of the suns thermal energy in regards to organization. As demonstrated by the other planets there is a fine balance between too much and too little. However we are still left with the where did the first mechanism come from? Any suggestions?

Classic arguments for evo's and entropy are as snowflakes, hurricanes and crystals. Based on those arguments the 2nd law of thermodynamics don't apply to everyday occurrences. So then how did it get become a "Law" of science and not a suggestion of science?

Another classic argument was that if you gave typewriters to an infinite number of monkeys and allowed an infinite amount of time they would produce all the works of Shakespeare. Unfortunately this was tried in a finite fashion and in a very short time all the typewriters were destroyed. The end result was thus realized much sooner than Kingdom Come, that being energy (monkeys) into a system (typewriters) may in fact accelerate entropy.

Look DK if you really want to believe in evolution you go right ahead. Maybe you'll win the powerball too. It certainly can happen but, if you think your trivial answers even come close answering the questions then maybe you have a new career path on the lecture circuit.
Best Regards,
Boiler Plate
122 posted on 03/09/2006 2:09:02 PM PST by Boiler Plate
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