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Neoconservatives: The new hippies
Daily Colonial ^ | Wednesday, February 22 2006 | Danny Kampf

Posted on 02/28/2006 8:46:11 PM PST by jb6

Edited on 02/28/2006 11:09:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Being someone of a liberal persuasion, it might come as a surprise that I not only sympathize with neoconservatives, I genuinely agree with much of what they have to say. Unlike traditional conservatism, neoconservative philosophy amounts to more than just “Leave us alone.” It inherently rejects both “Fortress America” isolationism and Kissingerian realism in favor of an activist foreign policy of promoting human rights and propagating democracy.

What liberal could disagree with that?

It’s no coincidence that the two ideologies overlap. Both are grounded in Wilsonian idealism. Moreover, neoconservatism wasn’t initially the product of the right-wing intellectuals, who have since become its standard bearers. Strangely enough, the original neoconservatives were radical leftists.

To be specific, they were Trotskyites.

For those of you unfamiliar with Leon Trotsky, he was one of the chief architects of the Russian Revolution. He was an idealist and a militant. Before the revolution, while he was in prison, Trotsky cultivated his famous theory of permanent revolution: a concept which would later provide the impetus for Soviet imperialism.

An independent thinker (he was originally a leader of the opposition Mensheviks), Trotsky was single handedly responsible for crafting the Red Army into a machine whose purpose was to forcibly spread his idealistic brand of Marxism across the world. Substitute “Marxism” with “democracy” and the leap from Trotskyism to neoconservatism appears remarkably diminutive.

Small as the gap may have been, neoconservatives certainly didn’t make the jump to democracy overnight. It took years of audacious brutality and cynical ideological manipulation by the Stalinist Regime before they were finally disenchanted with communism.

Left in a political vacuum, they eventually gravitated towards realpolitik. This resulted in what Francis Fukuyama calls a “realistic Wilsonianism.” The philosophy essentially boils down to this: the United States is a benign hegemon with the unique ability to create a democratic world order that respects human dignity. Hegemonic as it may be, however, the early neoconservatives believed it was imperative for the United States to act prudently, by avoiding war when possible and cautiously exercising force when not.

As a liberal, I’d say I agree with that doctrine almost in its entirety. But if that’s the case, why is it that I almost always find myself at odds with the policies of the first neoconservative administration ever: the Bush Administration?

Well, the sad fact of the matter is that neoconservatism has become a grotesque caricature of its once great former self. Gone are the days of academic nuance, realpolitik and judicious analysis of international relations. All that remains is its idealism and a throwback to its morphed Trotskyite heritage: the insufferable notion that democracy in and of itself (much like Marxism) has the power to single-handedly cure all the world’s ails.

Neoconservatism for kids – that’s what the Bush Administration is responsible for. They have cheapened their philosophy in order to produce an easily digestible version for the masses. This is more than a little reminiscent of the reductivist logic promulgated by the hippie movement in the ‘60s (when neoconservatism was at its nadir). Replace “All you need is love” with “All you need is democracy” and you essentially have what can only be described as “the new hippies.”

The biggest difference is that, unlike the hippies, the neoconservatives are actually in control of our formal institutions of power. Moreover, they have returned to the Trotskyite militarism of their deep past. What could possibly be scarier than blind idealism coupled with an aggressively militarized foreign policy?

I share President Bush’s idealism. I, too, want to see a democratized world order. In this, I believe that even the neoconservatives of today share far more than they’re willing to admit with their liberal counterparts. But the methods by which the Bush Administration is pursuing its goals are haphazard, ill-informed and overly simplistic.

What a shame it is to have another great political philosophy destroyed by yet another generation of hippies – only this time in jacket and tie.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
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To: jb6

Why would you use obvious communist, er left-wing propaganda for any reason whatsoever?


121 posted on 02/28/2006 10:27:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: William Creel

Jimmy Carter.


123 posted on 02/28/2006 10:28:04 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Smartass; potlatch
Hamas Charter (1988)


124 posted on 02/28/2006 10:28:42 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: jb6

Are you not calling for war against Saudi Arabia?


125 posted on 02/28/2006 10:29:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

The main article is from the BBC and its the best unblog site I found in a quick search. As I said, the comments are stupid leftist crap. I attached that comment right off to make sure no one thought I supported the commentary. The facts stand, we helped the Baathists, or rather the CIA.


126 posted on 02/28/2006 10:29:55 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Smartass

"Hey Mr Tallyman, tally all me peanuts".


127 posted on 02/28/2006 10:30:07 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Jim Robinson
All one has too do is look at the things Clinton and Company, including all the Democrat Senators, were saying about Iraq when they bombed the heck out of it in Dec 1998. Most all of the WMD's intelligence the Left screams "Bush lied" about was developed during the Clinton Years. The official policy of the US Govt under Clinton was Regime Change in Iraq. But as Rush points out, for the Left, History starts Jan 2001.

Simply put, we could not leave an Unconfined Saddam on our flank. Containment of Iraq was breaking down as the Oil for Food Scandal shows. We needed a Terrorist Kill Zone, Iraq provided it. We had the political and legal justifications to take out Saddam. He was in violation of the 1991 Cease Fire. For the US in 2002, the strategic logic of Iraq is inescapable. We could NOT tie up major military forces else where in the world and leave Saddam unfought on our flank. Saddam's Iraq was a lingering, festering boil on the world's body. One way or another it had to be lanced.

128 posted on 02/28/2006 10:30:21 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Jim Robinson

Saudi Arabia is already at war with us. Just because they can't send tanks into NY, they train, indocternate and then release islamic fundies on us instead. They spread 5th columnists in our nations, take over more moderate mosques and drive the anti-american fanaticism in most of the islamic world. We didn't start his ruckous, the Saudies did.


129 posted on 02/28/2006 10:31:19 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: MJY1288
What a load of Friggin crap, Now we have people here agreeing with flaming Liberals like this goof ball

Yes. A lot of folk posting here like that.

This is almost a liberal site now.

The overall quality of FR has become victim of FR's popularity.

130 posted on 02/28/2006 10:31:26 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: William Creel

Thot Thar be Jimmuh Cawtuh...


131 posted on 02/28/2006 10:31:37 PM PST by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: jb6

You're either knowingly or unknowingly pushing pure leftist propaganda. That means you're either a willing dupe, or an unwitting dupe. Which is it?


132 posted on 02/28/2006 10:32:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

What propaganda? That the CIA helped the Baathists rise to power in the 60s to replace the communsits? Or that Saudi Arabia funds islamic fanaticism?


134 posted on 02/28/2006 10:34:09 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: PhilDragoo

Deep and scary reading. Quite the norm for anything islamic.


135 posted on 02/28/2006 10:34:59 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: jb6

Hey, it was your source not mine.

Read it and weep:

http://www.representativepress.org/index.html


136 posted on 02/28/2006 10:36:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: potlatch
Isn't he a piece of extreme liberal calculated work?
He's not as dumb as he looks!
137 posted on 02/28/2006 10:36:19 PM PST by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Jim Robinson

The CIA created bin Laden too. Also Zarqawi is really a Mossad agent and neo-cons blew up the Trade Center to justify their "Perpetual War." I know because I read it at antiwar.com and lew rockwell.


138 posted on 02/28/2006 10:39:10 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: jb6
The CIA aided both the Shah in Iran and the Baathists in Iraq to remove the communists who over threw the king

Well again, your are completely and wholly wrong. The above statement is nonsense. Your are confusing two separate events and collaborating them into one false memory. You are confusing events in Iran and Iraq. CIA had NOTHING to do with Saddam's rise to power. NOTHING. The event you are claiming happened IN IRAN. You seem mentally incapable of grasping the fact Iran and Iraq are TWO DIFFERNT COUNTRIES.

139 posted on 02/28/2006 10:39:42 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: MJY1288
I'll take a NeoCon over a RINO anyday

Those terms are not mutually exclusive.

140 posted on 02/28/2006 10:41:00 PM PST by Junior_G
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