Flashback - December 13, 2004: Dubai, U.A.E., Joins U.S. Container Security Initiative (State Dept.)

US Department of State ^ | December 13. 2004

[Indy Pendance]

This poster has a lot of interesting first hand info. He worked in the industry for over 10 years. Read his stuff, really informative.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=19076

[onyx]

Thank you for your thoughtful comments. You have made my day!

[McGavin999]

It's the One Percenters onyx. They become rabid on a regular basis. They seem to hijack the forum any time there is even the smallest excuse to bash the president.

[Miss Marple]

I've been through enough of these Bush-bashing frenzies that I am immune. I can spot a hot topic for Bush bashing when I listen to the radio. Lately, I don't bother to engage. It's pointless, like arguing with a pig.

Well, I am certain the President knows what he is doing, unlike the glorified shipping clerks in the White House press corps, the cowardly Congress, the opportunistic pundits, and the useless posters wasting bandwidth here on FR. I support the guy I voted for, and I cannot imagine he would do anything that would risk the nation's security.

[new yorker 77]

I have heard that no US Company bid on this contract.

If this is true, How can we complain about the lack of US management control over these ports if no US company is willing to even bid on controlling authority?

[Indy Pendance]

I've known you guys for years, and likewise. I just usually read, because what I was going to say has usually been posted. I get in my posting modes now and then so you all can 'fawn' over my prose... :)

[onyx]

Yes, the very same ones, but this time, even some others have surprised me. Disgusted me too.

I love liblieslayer's comments above. Have a look.

[McGavin999]

AH, that's their line. They seem totally unaware that most of our supplies for the military have been going through Dubai for years now.

They can't quite grasp the fact that the British company that has had the contract for years has been bought out, which means that the employees will simply move over into the new company and continue doing the job they've been doing for years.

[mystery-ak]

Some enterprising reporter ought to ask the Australian government how things are going at Melbourne, where DP operates the port there.

The Aussies are our buddies in Iraq and they certainly have their own muslim concerns in Indonesia and domestically. So what's their experience been?

I don't think a reporter will do that story, though, because the ports story is basically a bash-Bush opportunity.




Worth repeating

[onyx]

I love your mind, Miss Marple. It's beautiful. Thanks for your comments.

[Miss Marple]

Yes, and then she got huffy because the Dubai shipping company had been watching the show and refused to be interviewed until Fox reported the truth! I had to laugh...probably not a smart PR move by Dubai but it was quite amusing to see her all flabbergasted that someone would call them on their reporting. HA!

[Howlin]

Ahem:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1583067/posts

[onyx]

LOL! Go for it! I'll be back right after my hot bath.

[Miss Marple]

I vote for the Chinese causing trouble. Apparently this company has very good relations with the longshoreman's union.

[Mike Darancette]

I guess no one cares about CSI, the Container Security Initiative.

I would imagine that Dubai Ports World was made to jump through hoops to get DHS approval for this deal. I think that if DPW actually gets the deal their terminals will be among the most secure with the latest state of the art security gear.

DPW will be thoroughly scrutinized.

[new yorker 77]

Some reporter should find out if a US Company put in a bid to buy this portion of the British Company P&O.

There was open bidding and no US takers.

It was a fight between Singapore and Dubai.

If Singapore won, no one would care, but the premise of fear over foreign control would still be there.

[McGavin999]

You'll get used to it. These people crawl out of the woodwork at any opportunity to smash President Bush. They think that if they turn off enough republican, they might get more than 1% in the next election. They're loud, they post a LOT and have a LOT of screen names.

Just keep on with the logic and sooner or later they get tired.

[Indy Pendance]

There is no US company to do it, hasn't been for years. P&O is the last british company.

[A Citizen Reporter]

"Actually, I think this all has something to do with the unions.

Somebody already did. A.Hun.

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Check out this labor circular from 2002. I found it on labournet..

Seems to outline this fight over ports towards the end of the page.

http://www.labournet.net/docks2/0206/itf1.htm

137 posted on 02/21/2006 12:43:32 PM CST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)

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Here is the part I found interesting:

"16. Unfortunately, in too many countries the interpretation of modernization of management, labour and industrial relations differs from our view. Privatisation and competition for example are being used to justify fierce attacks on trade unions and its leadership. As a result union busting has become a very negative trend in the port industry;

[McGavin999]

Does the Chinese company hold the port contracts on the west coast?