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To: tpaine
But as you say, the main point everyone here seems to ignore is that neither governments nor individuals have the power to search or detain another person ~ unless ~ that individual can reasonably be seen to be in the process of commiting a criminal act.

How do you square that with the searches that occur at airports and sporting events? There's no "public safety" exception in the 4th Amendment.

144 posted on 02/03/2006 6:37:50 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Fatalist wrote:
There are laws in place that give merchants the right to search in certain circumstances. The details and scope of the laws vary, but the searches can never be unreasonable because the government can't grant authority it doesn't itself possess.


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An excellent example of such a State law is posted here a #64:

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But as you say, the main point everyone here seems to ignore is that neither governments nor individuals have the power to search or detain another person ~ unless ~ that individual can reasonably be seen to be in the process of commiting a criminal act.


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How do you square that with the searches that occur at airports and sporting events? There's no "public safety" exception in the 4th Amendment.
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What's to 'square'?
Your example is a supposedly voluntary entry search; ---- at issue is an exit search & detainment.
168 posted on 02/04/2006 9:16:53 AM PST by tpaine
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