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Captain's tirade left submariner in tears
The Scotsman ^ | 1/9/6 | BEN MITCHELL

Posted on 01/09/2006 9:16:40 PM PST by SmithL

A SUBMARINE captain berated his subordinates with such rage that his face became "gorged" with blood and his tirades made a lieutenant ill and reduced him to tears, a court martial heard yesterday.

The case, being heard at Portsmouth Naval Base, relates to Capt Robert Tarrant's period of command of the nuclear-powered Trafalgar-class submarine HMS Talent, based at Devonport.

Judge advocate Jack Bayliss ruled that a substantial part of the case is to be heard in secret because the evidence is likely to include information relevant to national security.

Commander Alison Towler, prosecuting, said Capt Tarrant's behaviour towards his subordinates could not be excused by the stress of being involved in top-secret missions.

Cmdr Towler said that Capt Tarrant would embark on a "ritual" of shouting and abuse, sometimes personal, which was disproportionate to the complaint and would often leave the crew member in tears and afraid of him.

She said: "The prosecution accepts a commanding officer has the right to admonish his subordinates and an operation may require forcible and immediate action which leaves no room for tact.

"However, the prosecution says Captain Tarrant's conduct was unwarranted and far beyond robust leadership and management."

Cmdr Towler said Capt Tarrant's conduct towards his crew would remain civil and appropriate while in dock, but within days of being at sea or on operation he would become increasingly abusive.

The first of five charges, which all date back to between February 1998 and July 1999, involves Lieutenant Ryan Ramsey, who claims the constant "tirades" made him physically sick when he had to begin his shift and led to his becoming withdrawn and losing weight.

Cmdr Towler said that Lt Ramsey claims Capt Tarrant would shout at him for up to 20 minutes with his face only 5cm away from his own.

She added: "Lt Ramsey felt scared of Captain Tarrant. His verbal abuse left him in tears. Lt Ramsey noticed his [Capt Tarrant's] face would gorge with blood during these shouting episodes.

"He considered himself to be abused, harassed and bullied by Captain Tarrant."

The second charge relates to Capt Tarrant's conduct towards Chief Petty Officer Cosxwain (Submarines) Neil Maitland, who claims he would be the subject of shouting and intimidating criticism for no reason.

Captain Tarrant, 44, denies four charges of ill-treating officers under his command through repeated, unjustified, verbal abuse, and a fifth charge against a rating.

The hearing continues.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: badcaptain; bubbleheads; hurtfeelings
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Capt Robert Tarrant walks to the hearing with his wife Tracy
1 posted on 01/09/2006 9:16:42 PM PST by SmithL
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; Dog Gone; ..

You Brute,

You Brute,

You Viscious Brute!


2 posted on 01/09/2006 9:18:08 PM PST by SmithL (Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
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Glad these pu$$ies aren't in our military.


3 posted on 01/09/2006 9:19:09 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Uhhhhhhhhhhh, well, never mind...)
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To: SmithL

The royal navy has come full circle


4 posted on 01/09/2006 9:19:24 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: SmithL; Doohickey


5 posted on 01/09/2006 9:19:59 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (The FR Canteen's Resident E. O. M. C. P......)
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To: SmithL

And this is the same Royal Navy that used to routinely abuse the daylights out of every midshipman they had? Hmm.

}:-)4


6 posted on 01/09/2006 9:20:43 PM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: SmithL
Oh, please.

There's no crying in submarining!

7 posted on 01/09/2006 9:20:50 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I've upped my standards! Up yours!)
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To: SmithL

ah, bubbleheads :)


8 posted on 01/09/2006 9:20:54 PM PST by wingnutx (tanstaafl www.punk-rock.com)
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To: SmithL
Bloody Mollycoddler!
9 posted on 01/09/2006 9:22:00 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: SmithL
I'm sorry, but any Officer worth his salt knows this is exactly the wrong way to motivate the troops. There's nothing wrong with a good old fashioned dressing down, but to go beyond that is conduct unbecoming.

Abusing the troops under your command physically or mentally can and should get the CO relieved post haste.

L

10 posted on 01/09/2006 9:22:24 PM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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To: SmithL

Ah, for the grand old days of 50 lashes and a keelhauling!


11 posted on 01/09/2006 9:22:48 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: vrwc0915

Where is Captain Bligh when we need him?


12 posted on 01/09/2006 9:23:20 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: vrwc0915

Never spent any time with a USMC NCO, I see.


13 posted on 01/09/2006 9:23:48 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: SmithL

She's thinking..."but...but I like it when he does that!"


14 posted on 01/09/2006 9:26:05 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: Moose4
And this is the same Royal Navy that used to routinely abuse the daylights out of every midshipman they had?

That's a myth.

16 posted on 01/09/2006 9:27:08 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: SmithL

These guys should be happy for a little shouting. They could have gotten the rum, lash and sodomy Royal Navy.


17 posted on 01/09/2006 9:28:33 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: SmithL

Conduct unbecoming of an officer, especially a naval Captain.


18 posted on 01/09/2006 9:28:49 PM PST by RTINSC (Being Offended is the Natural Consequence of Leaving Your Home...)
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To: Lurker
Abusing the troops under your command physically or mentally can and should get the CO relieved post haste.

I remember a boat in Pearl Harbor a few years ago where the CO was relived for bad crew morale.
19 posted on 01/09/2006 9:30:04 PM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: Lurker

And it is counterproductive - disloyal troops don't win wars.


20 posted on 01/09/2006 9:31:12 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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