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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No, we arrive at objective evidence by subjecting the evidence to testability and repeatability.

Nope. The evidence is objective to begin with. We do our best to objectively test it, and repeat those tests. From those tests we draw subjective conclusions and inferences. Subjectivity cannot be entirely removed from the human observer. That does not mean human observers are unscientific.

953 posted on 01/06/2006 10:01:54 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"The evidence is objective to begin with."

The only way we can arrive at objective evidence is by testing the evidence. The only way we can know if something is objective is by having more than one person examine it.

"We do our best to objectively test it, and repeat those tests. From those tests we draw subjective conclusions and inferences."

No, YOU draw subjective inferences. Scientists draw objective ones.

"Subjectivity cannot be entirely removed from the human observer."

That doesn't mean objectivity can't exist in our decisions. You are claiming that subjectivity is the basis of all knowledge claims in science. This is nonsense.


954 posted on 01/06/2006 10:11:42 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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