Just when I thought that the general level of this conversation had been raised.
hosepipe, kindly recant your slur. Namecalling does you and your position little credit.
You see "socialist" as a slur?... Any democrat is a defacto socialist, and any big giverment republican are socialists.. and Most/many recieveing social security payments are socialists..
You argue FOR federal giverment involvement in education.. I thought you might appreciate being called a socialist.. Sorry, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and most probably votes like a duck.. Forgive I'm not too smart.. to me it IS A DUCK.. If indeed you are federal giverment employee (a.k.a. a Goose) speak up.. don't be mute.. Geese need some fire under them as well..
Besides that you bypassed by comments.. Saul Alinsky would be proud of you.. and Probably Hillary Clinton as well.. <<- Sauls most famous, high profile student..