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To: Coyoteman
"Based on these, evolution is a theory. CS and ID are beliefs".

I have made the point on this thread that the theory of evolution contains faith-based beliefs (see previous posts relative to HOX gene mutations and feathered dinosaurs like Sinosauropteryx).

One can not construct an evolutionary model that takes a simple single-celled organism from a primordial soup to all the complexity and diversity observeable today without faith (belief in something for which there is no evidence).

It also takes faith to believe in any scientific "theory" associated with abiogenesis...specifically that it was only a natural event (unless, like Dr. Crick, you are a proponent of aliens as the cause, which also takes faith).

As for religion/philosophy...see Humanism, Naturalism and Materialism. The stated beliefs of these religions/philosophies are espoused all the time in what poses as science (especially around here...just look at some of the previous posts).

The basis for Materialist philosophy is matter in motion, with all things being explainable by the laws of physics and chemistry.

Secular Humanism (a religion as noted by the Supreme Court, Torasco v. Watkins) believes the following:

We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understandings of the universe and to the solving of human problems.

We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, to seek to explain the world in supernatural terms, and to look outside nature for salvation.

We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.

(Source: webpage for the Council of Secular Humanism)

It should sound familiar...These religous statements of belief are verbalized/preached in an on-going basis in connection with the TOE (again, especially around here).

214 posted on 01/03/2006 5:37:40 PM PST by pby
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To: pby
Secular Humanism (a religion as noted by the Supreme Court, Torasco v. Watkins)...

Wasn't this in a footnote? And, correct me if I am wrong, don't footnotes lack legal standing?

221 posted on 01/03/2006 5:45:17 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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