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Pharmacist Shortage Worsens Nationwide
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051107/ap_on_he_me/pharmacist_shortage;_ylt=Amn3SV1K6dnd1WSMwrFGq0is0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3ODdxdHBhBHNlYwM5NjQ- ^

Posted on 11/09/2005 3:57:04 AM PST by kcvl

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To: kcvl

If you are so good at curing yourself why do you even go to the doctor in the first place since you think they are all greedy, heartless, know nothings?

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Don't worry, I am sure he will when he gets done playing in his herb garden and gets sick enough to die. I'm even more sure there will be a physician that will welcome him to the practice and treat him like a family member, when that time comes. I see it all the time, and it isn't in the heart of a GOOD doctor to hold a grudge patients because they're ignorant or misinformed. Attorney's on the other hand, I pull the welcome mat quickly when they pull into my parking lot.


61 posted on 11/09/2005 12:04:46 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Restore America: Powder Monkey 100 miles inland from each coastline, and let 'em drift off to sea...)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
why the education requirement is so stringent if all you're doing is dispensing drugs

Some of those chemicals and drugs are deadly. The pharmacist has to know his stuff.

62 posted on 11/09/2005 12:10:06 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Harrius Magnus
it isn't in the heart of a GOOD doctor to hold a grudge patients

Then you are a better person than I am.

BTW, I thought herb gardens were for garnishing your spaghetti.

63 posted on 11/09/2005 12:36:46 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

"Name them."

Name one drug company that does not reward doctors.

"Chemo saved my life."

I am glad you are a cancer survivor. Many live because of chemo. Many do not live because of chemo. Many cancer patients die in spite of the chemo.

I believe we should have a choice when it comes to health care. Many successful alternative practitioners have been hounded out of business or out of the country, or thrown in prison for helping people become survivors by using alternative, natural protocols. Perhaps it is time for medical doctors, hospitals and drug companies to experience that fate for their failures.

"...why do you even go to the doctor...?"

Fifteen years ago I knew no other way. Recently I wanted a confirmed diagnosis by a medical doctor before the self treatment - I wanted to know for sure that the alternative protocol used really resulted in the cure. I will go back to him soon for confirmation of the cure and let him explain to me why the alternative protocol that I used successfully does not work.

"...heartless, know nothings..."

No, doctors generally are not heartless, know nothings. They are products of their 'medical environment', products of the drug company influence on their training and their practice. My guess is that if a quarter of the practicing physicians became alternative practitioners, in a relatively short time they would be seeing most of the patients and many of the other three quarters would be out of work.


64 posted on 11/09/2005 12:42:46 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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Name one drug company that does not reward doctors.

You are the one claiming they get "perks". I asked you to name them since you know they get them. I see that you can't.

If you call sample drugs "perks" I guess you don't realize that they give those to their patients to try before the patient spends his/her hard earned money to buy a prescription that may/may not work. That's why they call them SAMPLES. Every time I go to my doctor he gives me allergy medication that I take all of the time and buy regularly. Those "perks", as you call them, help the PATIENT, not the doctor, unless you know of some other "perk" they get that I am not aware of.

Or maybe you are talking about those Kleenex with the drug company name on them placed in the patient's examining room, or those pens with the drug company name on them. Those "perks"?

65 posted on 11/09/2005 12:56:56 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Harrius Magnus; kcvl

"...herb garden..."

Yes, herbs are for garnishing spaghetti. Also for healing. Healing without side effects.

I already have medical doctors who are friends or family members, btw. And I am neither ignorant nor misinformed. More and more medical doctors are becoming convinced that alternative therapies work and are often superior to their standard procedures.

Attorney's on the other hand... :)


66 posted on 11/09/2005 2:05:37 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Texaspeptoman

The last pharmacist that I asked about my cough, backed away from me about 5 steps. I asked him if cold medicine could bind up oral estrogen. Not a real silly question is it? He didn't have a clue.


67 posted on 11/09/2005 4:13:47 PM PST by virgil
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

You still haven't answered the question about what "perks" doctors receive from drug companies.


68 posted on 11/09/2005 4:30:08 PM PST by kcvl
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And cholesterol lowering drugs are dangerous.
He prescribes drugs for an irregular heart beat (Beta Blockers, as an example). Beta Blockers try to control the irregular heart beat by weaking the heart muscle.
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I am happy for your faith in herbals/CAM and my protest was exaggerated to prove a point. I congrulate you on your knowledge and the helpful role this has provide to you and others. BUT...
Please do not condescend to me after 25 years of schooling/training and 10 years of practice, that you have somehow gained some mystical insight into allopathic medicine that was purposely witheld by my mentors or that I was too corrupted by the Goblins at the drug companies, to see the light. I have no problem with being suspicious of motives and am sorry you may have run across some bad medicine/doctors. However, I spend way too many hours a week educating patients about the medicines I prescribe, for you to use the Lawyer-like cry, "cholesterol lowering drugs are dangerous." Stick to commenting about the herbal/CAM stuff, unless you've taken years of pharmacology, abnormal human physiology, gross anatomy, Cell Biology, and a year of Biochemistry (which makes organic chemistry look like a course in Linkin' Logs). It's immeasurably more complicated than as you put it for BBlockers working by, "weaking the heart muscle." Thanks to charlatans and simple-minded comments, my daily plight to help folks is just that much harder.


69 posted on 11/09/2005 5:23:51 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Restore America: Powder Monkey 100 miles inland from each coastline, and let 'em drift off to sea...)
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To: Hardastarboard

I've been a pharmacist for 20 years, the last 2 at Walgreens--I was looking for information on the IL pharmacists when I saw this article on the shortage. My job is increasingly stressful, not as gratifying as it once was--Plan B, private insurance problems, Medicare part D problems, etc. As a wife and mother, I can work part time and still earn good money, but I am not recommending pharmacy school to anyone at this point.


70 posted on 01/30/2006 6:51:01 PM PST by pharmacist
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