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To: A CA Guy
As a former Californian of longstanding, what took place in CA last night looks far more different from where I am now, than it would and did when I was in CA. I am somber, commisserating with my fellow CA pals over the results of last night. I know ***exactly*** what it feels like.

Again, from far away, the resonance is different.

Casting off my CA commisseration? Here's how it looks to me.

Unions are bad for any state's economy. Dittos, planned parenthood. The unions and their allies PROVED Arnolds assertions about those groups.

His inits lost. But Arnold didn't lie: Everything he said, and why he thought these inits were important were proved, last night.

CA, this morning, resembles the bullying power of "special interests" in France.

However, none of this is helpful to you who remain in CA, fighting the good fight. Any bitterness over last nights results' is entirely understandable.

People in the other states, generally, and genuinely have NO idea how "life" really plays in CA. They love to visit. Find it beautiful. They've no idea of the reality of living in a socialist-dominated state.

Yes, parental notification init loss, was a stunner; and very revealing.

1,224 posted on 11/09/2005 3:55:34 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia

Just a second for my 'California' story: I grew up in liberal Northern Virginia but lived in San Francisco from 1974-1979. At the time I was in by 20's and moderately liberal. (One of my friendly acquaintances was Harvey Milk, the gay city councilmen who was assassinated at city hall, but that happened after I left.) However, even back then, I thought there were way too many 'space cadets' than normal. All I can say is the Haight-Ashbury mindset didn't disappear, it just oozed all over the city and then then throughout the metropolitan area. San Francisco has never recovered it's former self.


1,228 posted on 11/09/2005 4:24:22 AM PST by Alissa
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To: Alia
Nice comments.

I am just a little upset this morning with the voters here in California.

Did you catch the statement by the former San Francisco mayors daughter who said that San Franciscans like to think of themselves as not being part of the United states.

Personally, I like to think that many parts of California are not part of the normal world.

San Francisco and Hollywood definitely have a French complex.

I long ago gave up on the Democrat party and California using any kind of common sense in decision making.

California's elected leaders are proof of that.

I don't think many California voters are capable of making the right decisions for themselves and their children.

Voters keep making feel good votes and it always comes back to bite them in the @$$.

On another front.

I wonder how American can possibly survive another Democrat in power.

Especially one chosen from the current inane Democrat leadership and resembling that ignorant socialists commie loving Jimmuh Carter.

I suspect a day of reckoning is coming and may be on us quicker than many think.
1,326 posted on 11/09/2005 8:10:59 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Alia
Reagan also lost 38 years ago on an off year election regarding spending limits in California as well.
The same thing happened, the common people stayed home and all the unions and government employees came out to make Reagan lose.

I'm not sure if I can recall, but later I think Reagan came back to do a bit better.

We did great and no way against 20% of a billion in ad spending and no general public coming out to vote were we going to win these.

I think it is a great victory. We made them waste 200 million, including special assessments to the paychecks of these union workers.

Lets do it again at least a couple of election cycles and bankrupt the scoundrels.

It's cheap to put up the propositions, so lets get them out there and we do two good things.

#1 Impoverish the unions, and
#2 Eventually the propositions we want will pass.
1,427 posted on 11/09/2005 11:40:31 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Alia
Yes, parental notification init loss, was a stunner; and very revealing.

Speaks to what the liberals and unions who dominated these turn outs feel about it. Sure reads like Satan's foot soldiers instead of fellow citizens, doesn't it?

In a regular election, that can get passed.

1,429 posted on 11/09/2005 11:42:31 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Alia
Yes, parental notification init loss, was a stunner; and very revealing.

Speaks to what the liberals and unions who dominated these turn outs feel about it. Sure reads like Satan's foot soldiers instead of fellow citizens, doesn't it?

In a regular election, that can get passed.

1,432 posted on 11/09/2005 11:43:54 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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