Paris Riots spread throughout north-east (7th Night of Violence and Burning)

Radio New Zealand ^ | Nov 03, 2005 | staff

[Southack]

Paris riots spread throughout north-east Posted at 8:20pm on 3 Nov 2005

Violence broke out in impoverished Paris suburbs for the seventh straight night, with rioters clashing with police and leaving a trail of torched cars and vandalised buildings.

Observers are pointing to France's failure to address deep problems of poverty and immigration, including tensions with its Muslim minority.

In Aulnay-sous-Bois in the worst-affected area of Seine-Saint-Denis, a police station was briefly besieged by gangs of youths while a gymnasium and a garage were set ablaze and a commercial centre vandalised.

A total of 40 vehicles, including two buses, were torched before midnight in nine towns in the Seine-Saint-Denis area, a high-unemployment largely-immigrant region. Police made 15 arrests.

Two primary schools were also damaged in the area northeast of the French capital.

The riots started last Thursday following the accidental electrocution of two youths, aged 15 and 17, who had scaled an electrical relay station's walls to escape a police identity check in Clichy-sous-Bois.

The firing of a police tear gas grenade against a mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois during clashes on Sunday also sparked rage in the suburb's large Muslim community.

[unspun]

"Give us your tired, your poor, your weak, your huddled Muslims, yearning to subjugate all infidels."

[nicmarlo]

Illegals here are here illegally....that in itself is a criminal act.

If they're such good Christians, then they should understand that Christianity condemns acting against a country's laws. Christ doesn't condone breaking laws merely because one doesn't like them; the only exception would be to break God's laws/Commandments.

I hardly think obeying immigration laws constitutes breaking a moral law.

Christians, especially, should understand they need to STAND IN LINE, FILL OUT PAPERWORK REQUIRED, AND WAIT THEIR TURN.

[SunkenCiv]

Heh heh... Sarkozy's positions tend to shift (flip) with time; by 2007 -- or likely earlier -- he'll have to choose between this position, and me-tooing along with Villepin; Villepin's only claim to popularity comes from his apparent impact on French unemployment rates, so he can't go along with a 70 per cent cut in subsidies.

http://www.truthabouttrade.org/article.asp?id=4639

Nicolas Sarkozy, the French interior minister, took aim at the U.S. in an opinion piece published in the Les Echos business newspaper on Thursday. "The United States...is trying to suck us into a fools' bargain by demanding Europe make a disproportionate effort in exchange for concessions that are mostly tactical."

[Dashing Dasher]

Christians, especially, should understand they need to STAND IN LINE, FILL OUT PAPERWORK REQUIRED, AND WAIT THEIR TURN.

Just like the rest of our families (or ourselves) had to do.

[Dashing Dasher]

We've seen more pictures of Joe Wilson's wife than of the widening riots in Paris and Denmark in the U.S. news...

Sssshhhh

She's undercover!!!

[Jazzman1]

hey these euro-trash once again reap what they sow. wasnt it @ 60 years ago they tried to appease the germans and look where it got them...lol

[nicmarlo]

Yep; and mine had to do it at Ellis Island. I don't think that was even a terribly nice place to have to wait, either, at the time.

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/33226/story.htm

French biofuel makers are turning to kitchen waste in the shape of used fats and oils as they seek ways to meet the country's ambitious target for renewable energy sources to supply 10 percent of all fuels by 2015.

http://petroleum.berkeley.edu/papers/patzek/thermodynmaics%20of%20cornethanol.htm

Thermodynamics of the Corn-Ethanol Biofuel Cycle
T. W. Patzek
Critical Reviews in Plant Sciences,
23(6), 519-567, 2004

Abstract

In this paper I define sustainability, sustainable cyclic processes, and quantify the degree of non-renewability of a major biofuel: ethanol produced from industrially-grown corn.

First, I demonstrate that more fossil energy is used to produce ethanol from corn than the ethanol's calorific value. Analysis of the carbon cycle shows that all leftovers from ethanol production must be returned back to the fields to limit the irreversible mining of soil humus. Thus, production of ethanol from whole plants is unsustainable. In 2004, ethanol production from corn will generate ~11 million tonnes of incremental CO2, over and above the amount of CO2 generated by burning gasoline with 115% of the calorific value of this ethanol.

Second, I calculate the cumulative exergy (available free energy) consumed in corn farming and ethanol production, and estimate the minimum amount of work necessary to restore the key non-renewable resources consumed by the industrial corn-ethanol cycle. This amount of work is compared with the maximum useful work obtained from the industrial corn-ethanol cycle. It appears that if the corn ethanol exergy is used to power a car engine, the minimum restoration work is about 7 times the maximum useful work from the cycle. This ratio drops down to 2.4, if an ideal fuel cell is used to process the ethanol.

Third, I estimate the U.S. taxpayer subsidies of the industrial corn-ethanol cycle at $3.5 billion in 2004. The parallel subsidies by the environment are estimated at $2.0 billion in 2004. The latter estimate will increase manifold when the restoration costs of aquifers, streams and rivers, and the Gulf of Mexico are also included.

Finally, I estimate that (per year and unit area) the inefficient solar cells produce ~100 times more electricity than corn ethanol. We need to rely more on sunlight, the only source of renewable energy on the earth.

[SunkenCiv]

Y'know what they need? More diversity, more cultural sensitivity, more subsidies for immigrants...

[Dashing Dasher]

They'll never learn.

[Dashing Dasher]

Mine sat in Displaced Persons' Camps in Europe and waited there for six years.

But, that was after the Nazis took them from their village and put them in labor camps for four years.

My family thought that was a small price to pay to come to America. I'm very proud of them and they have given me a strong sense of Patriotism.

[Borax Queen]

If they're such good Christians, then they should understand that Christianity condemns acting against a country's laws. Christ doesn't condone breaking laws merely because one doesn't like them; the only exception would be to break God's laws/Commandments.

BTTT!

[nicmarlo]

I'm sorry your family had to endure the Nazis and their cruelty. Thank God He got them to America and away from persecution. As I understand, my mother's grandparents (both sides) came to the States during the potato famine in Ireland.....which was brought on, in large part, due to the government's/landlord's treatment of land and the peasants. They escaped starvation. But they waited their turn to get into the U.S. My father's side is of Germany Palatine heritage; their hardship, both before, during, and after arriving to the States, has been well-documented by such authors as Henry Z ("Hank") Jones, Jr., Fellow, in his book The Palatine Families of New York - 1710.

[Cplus]

Although there is a deep dislike of the French through much of red-state America ( and much of "non-core" Europe), many still cling to the outdated notion that France is an historical and cultural ally, simply in opposition for the time being. This view more or less prevailed in US foreign policy from the Kennedy administration on. By the way, it was not shared by Eisenhower and Dulles who had a little more hands-on experience with the French.
In unpleasant reality, however, after the end of the Miitterand administration, the dirigiste class of France, which is far smaller and more cohesive than non French speakers usually realize, reached a strong consensus of declaring and executing war against America. This goes far beyond the Anti-americanism which the useful media idiots publicize. It goes well beyond the anti-Americanism of the British left, which hopes for and rejoices in American discomfort. This is not the place and time to recount the many practical effects of this French effort; most observers of world events can think of at least a few consequences if they try. This war by France has been limited only by its own weakness and shortcomings. Areas of cooperation, such as in Syria at the moment, are purely tactical. La guerre continue. Those who fail to evaluate France as an enemy, not merely an opponent, will have their pockets picked and their bodies bruised in this unacknowledged war.

[Borax Queen]

Mine sat in Displaced Persons' Camps in Europe and waited there for six years.

Mine did too. That was after they got to "choose" between Hitler's camps or Stalin's Siberia. They had legitimate reasons to request citizenship, and had to wait years, learn English and the Constitution, have sponsors and jobs (those old enough), be healthy. Women and children were admitted first.

Now, the people are arriving illegally to abuse our social services, take our jobs, invade us, yet we do nothing.

[nicmarlo]

yet we do nothing.

That's almost true; however, there are lots of people who take the side of the criminal behavior of illegals by wanting to reward them with 'amnesty' and other ways, or who spout the mantra "they're just doing jobs Americans won't do" or "they're needed for our economy".....thereby making excuses for lawbreakers. When they're not making excuses, they apply moral relativism to their criminal behavior of illegally coming into/staying in this country.

[Dashing Dasher]

They had legitimate reasons to request citizenship, and had to wait years, learn English and the Constitution, have sponsors and jobs (those old enough), be healthy. Women and children were admitted first.

Exactly what happened to ours.

I see we have similar history. And I see that our histories have brought us to the same place - anger at the illegals abusing our country and her gifts.

[Borax Queen]

Rome is burning.