"I wonder what Jefferson, Madison, Washington, Monroe, Henry would have said if they were told that they could be stopped on a public road, asked for their papers and searched?"
To which I replied:
The founding fathers did not have rules of the road to follow by any laws, did they? Maybe they could not travel with the plague, but what else would you consider that was similar to today's world?
In simpler English for you... today we have laws of the public road for safety, and even requirement of insurance, a license, a legal car and to be fit in order to drive our public roads. These laws are for public safety. Jefferson and others did NOT have the same high volume society to get around in, so had they lived now, I think they would have bitched some and then complied with the officers IMO.
No, they're not. They are about revenue and to condition us to do anything an armed government agent tells us to do.
You and I have had this conversation before. We don't have public roads anymore. We only have government roads. A "public" road is a road built and maintained by the public, upon which a member of the public has a right to peaceably travel upon between Point A and Point B in any peaceable manner and in or upon any contemporary conveyance. They don't exist anymore.
This whole conversation astounds me. A single-celled organism will fight to the death against restriction of movement, yet we have so-called "conservatives" striving to enslave themselves and the rest of us.
Amazing.
You said we don't have a birthright to be secure in our papers and to travel freely without harassment and I said the founding fathers guaranteed us this right in the constitution. Never would they have allowed fishing expeditions by law enforcement.
Ben Franklin, who was a real Libertine in his time had a saying about liberty and safety.