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Top blogs often too one-sided [Free Republic and Drudge dwarf all others but are unfair]
The Oregonian ^ | October 23, 2005 | Regina Lawrence

Posted on 10/23/2005 12:18:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

T here's been a lot of excitement about blogs since they broke into public consciousness during the 2004 election. They are now growing at an astronomical rate. The blog search engine Technorati now tracks almost 20 million of them, and various estimates of the number of blog users range from 32 million to 50 million Americans.

Blogophiles see blogs as a new way for citizens to express themselves and, especially among the political bloggers, a new way for citizens to talk back to the "MSM" -- the mainstream media. According to Mike Godwin, legal director of a First Amendment advocacy group called Public Knowledge, "A.J. Liebling famously commented that freedom of the press belongs to those who own one. Well, we all own one now."

But in all the excitement and hype, it's easy to overlook the fact that in some ways political blogs are not so different from or even separate from the MSM they often love to hate.

One similarity is found in emerging patterns of Web traffic. Blog abundance creates a paradox: Given more information choices than ever, most people economize, trying to find efficient ways to tame the information tide. So most regular users rely on a few blogs for most of their information. That's one reason why a handful of political blogs gets the lion's share of traffic. A recent study of 2 million Internet users found that the top four blog "hosts," such as blogspot.com, are visited by more than 5 million visitors per quarter. Unique visitors to the Drudge Report and the conservative blog freerepublic.com number2 million to 3 million per quarter, twice as many as their nearest competitors and dwarfing countless smaller blogs.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blogs; fr; liberalwhine; peep; weblogs
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To: Jim Robinson

Most of the writings of the author seem to be in Public Health even though she is listed as Prof of Political Science?


141 posted on 10/23/2005 7:58:45 PM PDT by tubebender (There you go, stealing my Tag Line again...)
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BUMP!


142 posted on 10/23/2005 8:00:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Well, I'll cede the point - if you can show me any press that runs for free. Newspapers have to buy paper and ink, and buy and maintain the presses, and operate the presses, and distribute the papers. That all costs money. You will say, "but that money comes from the sale of the paper." And I will reply, "not really - the newspaper lives and dies by advertising revenue - and not only so, but a newspaper may be started up by an entrepreneur who got his money making sausage or something."
Hmmm. That's a really good argument. But is advertising the same as journalism in terms of the founder's intent for freedom of the press? I'm not sure. Did they intend to protect the right to advertise anything? Can the government put limits on advertising? If we argue that spending, in the form of advertising is press then there are a lot of practices that will become protected, not just political ads.
143 posted on 10/23/2005 8:04:32 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


144 posted on 10/23/2005 8:17:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FormerACLUmember

Yes, exactly.


145 posted on 10/23/2005 8:25:23 PM PDT by wigswest
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
The Supreme Court ruled in 1976 in Buckley v. Vallejo that spending money for political campaigns IS a part of First Amendment freedom of speech. That is what makes the Court's decision in McConnell v. FEC, 5-4, upholding the Campaign Finance "Reform" Act an illogical and dishonest decision.

It is such a dishonest decision, and the result was so appalling, that I resigned from the bar of the Supreme Court in disgust. This is one of the decisions that I think can and will be reversed by getting one or two more Justices on the Court who take their oaths of office seriously, and will protect and defend the Constitution.

Logically, it isn't even close, to argue that spending money for advertising, printed materials, phone calls, and such is anything but part and parcel of free speech on political campaigns. It is contemptible that five Justices on the current Court voted to wipe their feet on the Constitution.

I hope I wasn't too harsh. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Reporting on the 2,000th American Death in Iraq"

146 posted on 10/23/2005 8:34:42 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Quoted by Rush, again, this Thursday. Hoohah.)
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To: gondramB
But is advertising the same as journalism in terms of the founder's intent for freedom of the press?
Well, for one thing, the government shouldn't have the right to ccensor advertising becauuse that gives government the power to choke off advertising revenue to the printer.
Did they intend to protect the right to advertise anything? Can the government put limits on advertising?
To me advertising is a mere matter of renting a press instead of buying it. Why should the government have authority over a press merely because the operator rented it instead of buying it??
If we argue that spending, in the form of advertising is press then there are a lot of practices that will become protected, not just political ads.
If by that you mean that present-day First Amendment jurisprudence is a royal lashup, you will get no argument from me. I refer you to this long-running thread for further discussion of this topic.

147 posted on 10/23/2005 8:42:20 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Re your #16: Ping to my #147.
This is one of the decisions that I think can and will be reversed by getting one or two more Justices on the Court who take their oaths of office seriously, and will protect and defend the Constitution.
I assume O'Connor in the majority, and Renquist in the minority, of that awful decision?

148 posted on 10/23/2005 8:50:41 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Jim Robinson

When did FR become a blog?


149 posted on 10/23/2005 9:09:07 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

First, thanks for that link.

"To me advertising is a mere matter of renting a press instead of buying it. Why should the government have authority over a press merely because the operator rented it instead of buying it??"

Putting your arguments together... if advertising and spending are given the same level of protection as journalism because they are speech and press, respectively that would appear to give tremendous advantage to whatever person or party is wealthier since the could spend as much as they wanted however they might want.

Is that really consistent with founder's intent? Did they intend to create a system with unlimited spending and so large of an advantage for the wealthy?


150 posted on 10/23/2005 9:36:30 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: Jim Robinson; conservatism_IS_compassion
Re post #1 - I don't know...what about the VALERIE PLAME NUDE thread I posted? 8,500+ hits and now, still counting...

conservatism_IS_compassion, thanks for the ping.

And, now, back to Hurricane Wilma...
151 posted on 10/23/2005 10:19:57 PM PDT by summer
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To: Jim Robinson

It's Bush's fault.


152 posted on 10/24/2005 1:54:23 AM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: gondramB
"I'm more concerned about comments coming out of congress about how blogs are not journalism and not entitled to freedom of press protection - that makes the effort to classify sites like FreeRepublic as blogs potentially an actual threat, not just an anomaly."

Fear of the government is never misplaced but the 1st amendment does not just (or even mainly) cover the press. Political speech by citizens is the most protect free speech there is.

That's not to say I don't expect an assault by the left via the courts, only that there is precedent on our side and shortly, a SCOTUS on our side

153 posted on 10/24/2005 2:11:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Media bias bump.


154 posted on 10/24/2005 3:03:41 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: gondramB; Congressman Billybob
if advertising and spending are given the same level of protection as journalism because they are speech and press, respectively that would appear to give tremendous advantage to whatever person or party is wealthier since the could spend as much as they wanted however they might want.

Is that really consistent with founder's intent? Did they intend to create a system with unlimited spending and so large of an advantage for the wealthy?

Unambiguously, my answer is yes. The First Amendment lays no restrictions on the people in their capacity as (present or future) speakers and printers; it lays restrictions only on the government.

The mistake we are encouraged to make is to think of freedom of the press as protecting our "right to know." We don't have any such thing as a "right to know." That would be inconsistent with our right to our own opinion - the speaking and printing of which the First Amendment so clearly protects. What is the point of a right to speak, if the only thing you can speak is what the government says that I have a right to know? What if you say something which contradicts what I "have a right to know?" Are you violating my rights by preventing me from "knowing" what I have a "right to know?"

Propaganda promoting a so-called "right to know" is of a piece with the promotion of the conceit that mass market journalism is "objective." Not only does the First Amendment not assure us that journalism is objective, it protects the journalist from any government prosecution on any such ground as a failure to be - by the government's lights, or yours or mine - "objective." The Constitution certainly says nothing about requiring that "opinion" be confined to an "editorial page" - in the founding era Hamilton and Jefferson sponsored competing newspapers in which to conduct their partisanship. A situation in which the entire newspaper would be what we now think of as the editorial page . . .

Indeed, sponsorship of a newspaper by a political party can scarce be said to differ in kind from "political advertising," now can it? One might just as well have a political party and a newspaper joined at the hip. Indeed that is what we now do have; as I noted earlier the Democratic Party adopts no principles which prevent it from associating itself with the leftist slant which inheres in journalism which is arrogant enough to proclaim its own objectivity.

It is convenient for both the Democratic Party and "objective" (really arrogant) journalism to protest the independence of journalism from Democratic politics, but neither of the two has any incentive to actually seperate themselves. So what we see in practice is not merely advertising in newspapers by the Democratic Party but the mutual coopting of all of "mainstream" journalism - print and broadcast - and the Democratic Party. Only thus is it possible for CBS to attack the Republican candidate for POTUS on a Democratic (Lt. Bush skipped out on the National Guard whereas Lt. Kerry brought home medals from Vietnam) theme and adducing as "proof" amateurishly fraudulent documents - and subsequently investigate itself and give itself a clean bill of health as being "objective." And see the entire MSM report that risable fraud straight. Not a single member of the MSM laughed when they reported it!


155 posted on 10/24/2005 5:38:40 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

"Unambiguously, my answer is yes. The First Amendment lays no restrictions on the people in their capacity as (present or future) speakers and printers; it lays restrictions only on the government."

I follow yor constitutional argument perfectly. It really doesn't say the press has to be owned to have freedom of the press. I no longer feel ambiguous about that - I appreciate you walking me through it.


This argument would not just free up soft money but individual contributions direct to the campaign. Should the SC ever take this (really logical) position it sure would make the individual large donor more important. That would make for very interesting politics.


156 posted on 10/24/2005 6:50:06 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: muir_redwoods

"That's not to say I don't expect an assault by the left via the courts, only that there is precedent on our side and shortly, a SCOTUS on our side"

Since what we are talking about is citizens voluntarily wishing to gather to discuss the relevant political and constitutional issues of the day you would think we would always have the Supreme Court on our side...it's hard to imagine speech that it's more important to protect for the sake of democracy.

It's pretty sad that it might be otherwise.


157 posted on 10/24/2005 7:09:47 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: Congressman Billybob

Considering the reporter doesn't know what FR even stands for and has never been to the site, I don't find it unusual for the remark. Investigation is a 'lost art' in the MSM.


158 posted on 10/24/2005 7:29:22 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I jez calls it az I see it.)
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To: Jim Robinson
FR is not fair and balanced. "Fair" is for the birds. I'm a proud partisan. :)


159 posted on 10/24/2005 7:33:45 AM PDT by SpookBrat
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To: Jim Robinson
Not a peep on FR about the Valerie Plame affair? I'm so ashamed.

Sorry, I was too busy posting how the evil Tom DeLay was viscously attacking the fair and balanced District Attorney Ronnie Earle and falsely accusing District Judge Bob Perkins of being biased just because he donates to a mainstream organization like moveon.org....

160 posted on 10/24/2005 7:43:09 AM PDT by Always Right
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