[doug from upland]

I want you to listen to me. Yes, I lied to my wife. Yes, I lied to my daughter. Yes, I lied to my attorney. Yes, I lied to my cabinet. Yes, I lied to the court. Yes, I lied to the grand jury. But I would never, never, never, never lie to Susan Estrich. Now, I'm going to get back to work for the American people.

[doug from upland]

I know I should be ashamed, it is really mean, and she is going to hate me forever, but THE STORY IS MEMORIALIZED IN SONG

[doug from upland]

JUANITA BROADDRICK -- LIVE THREAD, HANNITY SHOW ^

Posted by snoopy222 to doug from upland
On News/Activism ^ 06/10/2003 8:52:32 PM PDT · 357 of 430 ^

Doug, I want to thank you and everyone on this thread. I consider all of you my friends. Thanks for believing in me and for your support all these years. I can't believe how calm and relaxed I was for this interview. Sean Hannity is a great interviewer and puts you at ease. The first interview with Lisa Myers was more difficult because I had to recount so many painful issues about the actual assault. They had to stop the camera often because I was so emotional. This time was so different. Like I have said before, it is easy when you tell the truth. Again, thanks to all of you. Juanita

[GOPJ]

I thought she was different too. What a disappointment.

[hummingbird]

I'm no therapist, but for a woman to behave in this way makes me think she has not been able to fully find a resolution or closure from her own rape, or that her story of ever being raped is false.

If I go with my first speculation, I feel sorrow for her. If I go with my second speculation, I feel the same.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Since this doesn't appear to be working... maybe you should try to set up a meeting between Bill Clinton and Susan Estrich's rapist. *gurgle* *gag*

[doug from upland]

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ALL THE EX-PRESIDENT'S SCANDALS
Nurse backs up
Clinton rape charge
Attended Broaddrick's wounds after alleged assault in Arkansas

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Posted: June 26, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

In her first radio interview, the woman who nursed the wounds of Juanita Broaddrick shortly after an alleged sexual assault by Bill Clinton, says she remains convinced the ex-president is a rapist.

"Every time I talk about this, it still makes me upset," said Norma Rogers Kelsey, in an interview with talk show host Bob Enyart of KGOV in Denver.

Kelsey's interview, broadcast in two parts, last night and tonight, comes after Broaddrick repeated her charge on national television amid the release of Hillary Clinton's new book, which essentially ignored the accusation.

Kelsey, 49, is now a wife and mother of six children, living in Tulsa, Okla.


Juanita Broaddrick (courtesy: Fox News)

As WorldNetDaily reported, Broaddrick, a former nursing home administrator in Van Buren, Ark., told Sean Hannity of Fox News Channel's Hannity and Colmes program last Wednesday Clinton sexually assaulted her in 1978 while he was attorney general of Arkansas.

Known as "Jane Doe No. 5" in Kenneth Starr's impeachment report to Congress, Broaddrick had filed an affidavit in the Paula Jones case, at first denying Clinton had made any unwelcome sexual advances to her. But she later claimed to investigators for independent counsel Starr she was raped.

Kelsey, who then worked for Broaddrick as a nurse, said they went together to the American College of Nursing Home Administrators convention at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock, Ark., in April 1978.

Broaddrick had been invited to call Clinton's gubernatorial campaign office when she arrived in town to talk about volunteering, recalls Kelsey, who was 25 at the time.

"We thought it was going to be an exciting thing to work on his campaign," Kelsey said. "He was a charismatic young man – a person we felt like was definitely going some place."

Nothing other than a meeting

Clinton told Broaddrick because of his stature, it would be difficult to meet in the coffee shop and suggested they talk in a room.

"She had no reason to think that there would be anything else other than a meeting involved," Kelsey said.

Kelsey went to the convention's scheduled event, while Broaddrick contacted Clinton.

When Kelsey returned to the hotel lobby, she called Broaddrick's room to find out how the meeting went.

"I just remember being on the phone with her … and she was very upset," Kelsey recalls. "She said come to the room, we have to go back to Van Buren."

When Kelsey arrived in the room, she found Broaddrick's "lip was all swollen and very puffed out, and she was putting ice on it."

"She appeared to me to almost be in a shocked state," Kelsey said.

She believes Broaddrick's contention that the sexual contact was not consensual.

"If it had been some planned escapade she would have told me," she said. "We were close enough friends that she would have told me."

Kelsey recalls Broaddrick saying the meeting with Clinton began with small talk, and "she was a little surprised he was by himself."

"She said he was showing her locations outside the window there in Little Rock, and then, all of a sudden, he just kind of grabbed her and started kissing her," remembers Kelsey.

"He overtook her and pushed her to the bed, and from that point on it was just a rape."

Kelsey says Broaddrick explained how her lip became swollen: "He bit her lip to try to keep her from struggling with him."

Enyart asked if Broaddrick used the term "rape."

"Yes, she was so upset that she had allowed that to happen," Kelsey said. "She was afraid that this … would ruin her business. That's why she made me promise not to tell anyone."

Broaddrick said when Clinton made advances, she told him she couldn't do this. Though she was a married woman, she was in love with another man, David Broaddrick, who later became her husband.

Enyart commented: "She might have thought that would cause him to back up, but that was like adding fuel to the fire. If she was willing to have an affair with a married man … ."

"Right," Kelsey replied, "and I think that was a lot of the reason why she didn't want anything divulged. She was wrapped up in guilt thinking she might have deserved this."

Kelsey said on the two-hour drive back to Van Buren, Broaddrick "was just beating herself up over the fact that she could have been so stupid."

Over the next couple of days, Clinton tried to contact Broaddrick, she said.

"She told me he had tried to reach her," Kelsey said, "but she did not want to speak to him."

Cause for revenge?

Kelsey did not share her story with any media until 1999 when Broaddrick gave her first televised interview, taped in February during the Senate impeachment trial by NBC's news program Dateline but broadcast in March.

The New York Times said one of the reasons NBC delayed airing the Broaddrick interview was because a personal fact about Kelsey had given them pause.

In 1980, the man who killed Kelsey's father was made eligible for parole by Clinton, who at the time was lame-duck governor of Arkansas.

"People thought I was out to get Clinton," she said, noting a news report that questioned her motives.

"Our family was very upset he did that, but I would never ever accuse or tell a story like that about some one for that reason," she said. "My father was gone anyway."

Another encounter

Kelsey said she happened to be with Broaddrick again at a nursing home meeting in Little Rock in 1990 when Clinton aides called her to come with them.

When she returned to Kelsey, Broaddrick said: "You won't believe what just happened."

"They took her out of meeting, down this hallway at the hotel in Little Rock, and there he was," Kelsey said, referring to Clinton. "He told her he apologized and asked if she could forgive him, and if there was any way he could to make it up to her for what had happened."

Broaddrick told Clinton he could "go to hell."

One year later, when Clinton announced he was running for president, Broaddrick said "now she knew why he apologized," according to Kelsey.

Kelsey, who since had gone to work as a nurse at a steel mill in Arkansas, recalls Broaddrick calling her to let her know a colleague in the nursing home business, Phillip Yoakum, was pressing for the story to be publicized. "She said, Norma, please do not contact anyone. If anyone contacts you, please tell them you don't know anything."

The New York Times called her at home, she said, "and I told them I had no comment."

When lawyers for Paula Jones came to Broaddrick in an attempt to corroborate Clinton's style of behavior, Broaddrick denied she had made the charge.

But Broaddrick's son, a lawyer, warned her against lying to a federal grand jury, and she decided to tell the story.

Kelsey was then paid a visit by the FBI.

"It was very scary," she said. "I had the FBI come to my home here in Oklahoma and sit me down and make me corroborate stories they had been hearing."

When the FBI came, you told them the truth? Enyart asked.

"Absolutely," Kelsey said.

Enyart read through a list of other incidents in which women claimed Clinton forced himself on them sexually.

"It's appalling," Kelsey said, "when you read he's going to get a big talk show on TV, and it just makes me sick."

After Broaddrick made her charge public, Enyart organized nearly 150 protests, following Clinton wherever he appeared around the country, and even internationally, with signs declaring, "I believe Juanita."

The talk show host and pastor of Denver Bible Church says he plans to hold a week of protest-related events in Little Rock when the Clinton library opens to ensure the media will not ignore Broaddrick's accusation.

Kelsey said she agreed with Enyart that the media has given Clinton a pass.

"It's a sad story," she said, "and it's very sad when you are part of it and you feel like there is not anything you can say or do to change things."

[malia]

"----why would any talk show host on our side have the sick-o-fant on the air to sell her book? ------"

That is a good question and we should be asking that question.

"We all know why Estrich won't meet with her. She is afraid to hear the truth."

Susan Estrich doesn't want to and doesn't know how to tell the truth.

[doug from upland]

Tuesday, October 11, 2005
Susan Estrich: Hillary Will Never Be President
Democratic strategist Susan Estrich says that Dick Morris is afraid to debate her about who has the best chance to become America's first female president - Hillary Clinton or Condoleezza Rice.

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She says Morris is afraid to debate her. She is afraid to speak with Juanita.

[doug from upland]

[doug from upland]

AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON,

BY JUANITA BROADDRICK

'DO YOU REMEMBER?'
SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000

As I watched Rick Lazio's interview on Fox News this morning, I felt compelled to
write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume asked Mr. Lazio's views
regarding you as a person and how he perceived you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did
not answer the question, but I know that I can. You know it, too.

I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person you were
twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you. When I see you on
television, campaigning for the New York senate race, I can see the same hypocrisy
in your face that you displayed to me one evening in 1978. You have not changed.

I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were yesterday and
maybe there would still be time to do something about what your husband, Bill
Clinton, did to me. There was a political rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of
Arkansas. I had obligated myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by
your husband in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then
leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I was still in a
state of shock and denial. You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr.
Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering.
Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and
that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you
entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember
how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for
Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you
kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement,
but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the
last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip
and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault
I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you
warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.
Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that you were
twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving. You cannot tolerate the
thought that you will soon be without the power you have wielded for the last eight
years. Your effort to stay in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I
only hope the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary Clinton
is not an honorable or an honest person.

I will end by asking if you believe the statements I made on NBC Dateline when Lisa
Myers asked if I had been assaulted and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you
are like Vice-President Gore and did not see the interview.

Juanita Broaddrick
Arkansas

[doug from upland]

SEE THE VIDEO OF KATHERINE PRUDHOMME CHALLENGING ALGORE. Yeah, Al, rape is just a mistake in his personal life. What a wanker.

[doug from upland]

Howard Kurtz, WASHCOMPOST, 1999

David P. Schippers, chief investigator for the House Judiciary Committee Republicans during the impeachment proceedings, said Tuesday that his staffers interviewed Broaddrick more than once and "have assured me that she is the most credible witness that either one of them have ever talked to."

[doug from upland]

DO NOT MISS THIS LISTING ON EBAY MOCKING ESTRICH UNMERCIFULLY

[guitfiddlist]

This to me is a defining, illuminating issue - even though it has not been treated as one by the Left.

In any case, it is the perfect kind of case to tell a liberal what they are truly about.

"You don't want to discuss Broadrick, even though in your heart of hearts - you know it's true - and I KNOW you know it's true - so save your lame protests for someone who believes your tired BS. And what that indicates about you and your ilk, is that you are not about principle, not about justice, but about raw competitition for power, just so you can then bring about the perfect regime in order to institute, among other things, "equality for women" and
"justice" for the common folk?

This not only makes you corrupt, but stupid as a box of rocks. Now you can go back to denying this logical lockbox, by covering your ears."

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Go DFU Go! Keep the heat on! Estrich is showing her true spineless colors.

[doug from upland]

NYpeanut has graciously volunteered to start a Juanita ping list (or does someone already have that?). If you want on, FReepmail NYpeanut or do a ping on a thread and ask to NYpeanut be on it.

Juanita and Kathleen are taking it to Bill and Hillary, and I suspect we will be hearing more.

[subterfuge]

Must have been a blind man that raped Susan Ostrich. Or maybe it was really dark.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Inwoodian]

Even a twerp like Christopher Shays said he believed that, after viewing the evidence, Clinton raped JB twice. Of course, the schmuck didn't find this impeachable.

[DA740]

The problem with Susan Estrich is that she has little if any respect for the truth. She doesn't care whether Juanita Broderick got raped or whether Bill Clinton is lying about anything.

The first priority of every chick is simple: Chicks want MORE, more stuff, more money, more power, more freedom, more fun, more, more, more . . . That is what being a chick is all about. It has nothing to do with morals and truthtelling. Chicks just want MORE.

Bill Clinton got elected by promising chicks MORE and getting their votes. He got re-elected by using the presidency to give chicks MORE. Bill Clinton was "Big Daddy" for every female voter. That explains his presidency.

That is why Susan Estrich supports Clinton. It has nothing to do with truthtelling. She cares nothing about truth and the facts of what happened to some other girl. She herself is a chick and Clinton gave chicks MORE in order to get their votes.

DA740