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Worldly word:New Bible texts translate the Bible away
WORLD ^ | October 15, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 10/07/2005 8:38:02 AM PDT by Caleb1411

As evangelicals debate the inclusive-language Today's New International Version (TNIV), many liberal mainline churches have slipped far down the slippery slope in what they have done to the Bible.

In 1990, the National Council of Churches published the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV), an inclusive-language rendition of the well-accepted Revised Standard Version (RSV). This translation keeps masculine references to God and to Jesus, but changes them for human beings, getting rid of the generic "man," putting "brothers and sisters" where the original just has "brothers," and using awkward plurals and repetitions to avoid the generic "he." Never mind that the messianic title "Son of Man" is now "a human being." What the NRSV did to the RSV is pretty much what the TNIV did to the NIV.

But that much inclusive language was not enough for many mainline churches. An Inclusive Language Lectionary, a rendition of Scripture texts read during the worship service, takes the next step of changing the gendered language for God. Today, the congregations who use this lectionary in Sunday worship pray to "our Father-Mother." Jesus is not the Son of God, but the "child of God." The pronoun "he" is not even used for the man Jesus, replaced with ungrammatical constructions: "Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us" becomes "Jesus Christ, who gave self for us" (Titus 2:13-14).

But that much tinkering proved not to be enough either. In 1995, Oxford University Press published the New Testament and Psalms: An Inclusive Version. This revision of the NRSV not only uses gender-inclusive language for God and Jesus ("God our father-mother"), it also eliminates, in the words of the introduction, "all pejorative references to race, color, or religion, and all identifications of persons by their physical disability." In avoiding all "offensive language," "darkness" is changed to "night," lest it offend black people, and "the right hand of God" is changed to "the mighty hand of God," lest it offend left-handed people.

But that does not go far enough. The liberal Catholic group Priests for Equality published in 2004 the Inclusive Bible. "Kingdom" is both sexist and authoritarian, so the priests made up a new word, "kindom." Adam is not a "man," he is an "earth creature." And to avoid offending homosexuals or others in nontraditional relationships, the words "husband" and "wife" are changed to "partner."

But since radical theology depends on demonizing the "patriarchy" of the Bible, the Inclusive Bible includes footnotes admitting that "the actual Hebrew is even more brutal" and chastising the apostle Paul for his retrograde attitudes. Then the translators just change the text to something more suitable.

But the Inclusive Bible does not go far enough either. The Bible version Good as New: A Radical Retelling of the Scriptures uses what its introduction calls "cultural translation." Not only is it inclusive, it translates ancient terms into their modern-day equivalent. Thus, "demon possession" becomes "mental illness." Even names are changed: Peter, Nicodemus, and Bethsaida become "Rocky," "Ray," and "Fishtown." Religious terminology is eliminated, as not being in accord with our culture: "Baptize" is changed to "dip"; "salvation" is changed to "completeness."

The translation describes itself as "women, gay and sinner friendly." Thus, when Paul says that it is better to marry than to burn, the Inclusive Bible says, "If you know you have strong needs, get yourself a partner. Better than being frustrated." The Inclusive Bible follows the higher critics in leaving out the Pastoral Epistles and Revelation, and it follows The Da Vinci Code in including instead the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. This translation is endorsed by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, and the evangelical leader Tony Campolo.

But does any of this matter, as long as people are exposed to the Bible? Yes, it does. The bisexual deity "Father-Mother" is not the true God, nor is this made-up religion Christianity. These translations are not the Word of God. Just the Word of Man.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: apostate; bible; christianity; heresy; heretic; moralabsolutes; purge; religiousleft; screwballs; screwytranslations; tniv
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1 posted on 10/07/2005 8:38:06 AM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: Caleb1411

This reminds me of a sermon by my pastor from a few weeks ago. In essence he said that modern man may feel free to change their view of God, but that doesn't change God. They will learn the truth that they have tried to deny one day, but it will be too late.


2 posted on 10/07/2005 8:41:43 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Caleb1411
The liberal Catholic group Priests for Equality published in 2004 the Inclusive Bible.

To correct this inaccuracy, "Priests for Equality" is not a Catholic group and no Catholic priests are involved.

Its tiny membership consists of of several nuns who consider themselves "priests" and several men who were once Catholic priests but who have since left or been stripped of their ministry.

3 posted on 10/07/2005 8:41:44 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Caleb1411
But does any of this matter, as long as people are exposed to the Bible? Yes, it does. The bisexual deity "Father-Mother" is not the true God, nor is this made-up religion Christianity. These translations are not the Word of God. Just the Word of Man.

This bears repeating, its the TRUTH that sets man free

4 posted on 10/07/2005 8:42:16 AM PDT by apackof2 (There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
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To: Caleb1411

Yeah, uh, but Jesus WAS a He. If you're not sure that He was a He, then you obviously lack the faith required to know that He walked the streets of Mother Gaya, and so you're having a Bible is pretty pointless.

In other words, if your Bible denies that Jesus was a He, it ain't really a Bible.


5 posted on 10/07/2005 8:46:12 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: wideawake

Thank you for that correction.


6 posted on 10/07/2005 8:46:25 AM PDT by scott7278 (We will not fail.)
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To: Caleb1411
"And to avoid offending homosexuals or others in nontraditional* relationships...."

Read: *sinfull
Obscuring the truth does not change it, as God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

7 posted on 10/07/2005 8:46:34 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Even names are changed: Peter, Nicodemus, and Bethsaida become "Rocky," "Ray," and "Fishtown."

How ever did they come up with these names. LOL. This is ridiculous.

8 posted on 10/07/2005 8:47:45 AM PDT by Bahbah (Member of the Water Bucket Brigade)
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To: Caleb1411
These translations remind me of the new song,
"All to Jesus, I surrender, I surrender some"
10 posted on 10/07/2005 8:48:33 AM PDT by roylene
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To: Caleb1411
I believe ZONDERVAN published the TNIV. They deserve a total boycott.

Anyone who alters the Word of God or favors its altering is an apostate.

11 posted on 10/07/2005 8:49:05 AM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: Caleb1411

The pastor at the Presbyterian USA church of which my wife and I are members has already started inserting the Father-Mother thing.


12 posted on 10/07/2005 8:49:59 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Meadows Place, TX- "Tom DeLay Country")
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To: Caleb1411

The mainline Protestant churches are now hopelessly lost. There isn't even a vestige of solid doctrine remaining. This is selective Christianity at its worst and can be in no way considered positive in any way, shape or form.

BTW, I knew Campolo was a flake, but I didn't realize he'd fallen this far.


13 posted on 10/07/2005 8:50:12 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: TonyRo76

The head of the sect she belongs to was explicitly excommunicated years and years ago.


14 posted on 10/07/2005 8:50:59 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Caleb1411

Scappleface????


15 posted on 10/07/2005 8:51:40 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: wideawake

Sounds like how Rev Phelps calls himself "Baptist" yet has absolutely no affiliation with any Baptist organization.


16 posted on 10/07/2005 8:52:17 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Caleb1411
This translation is endorsed by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, and the evangelical leader Tony Campolo.

Tony Campolo...why am I not surprised. He is a liberal Democrat. He was also one of the "spiritual advisors" of Bill Clinton, but I was disillusioned about him way before that.

17 posted on 10/07/2005 8:52:42 AM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: Caleb1411

yes. this new translation sucks. but how many times have prior translations have been changed since the original texts in greek/ hebrew?


20 posted on 10/07/2005 8:53:54 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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