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Employee Demoted After Displaying Pro-Marriage Views at Work
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| 8/30/05
| Allie Martin
Posted on 08/31/2005 7:01:36 AM PDT by ZGuy
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:01:37 AM PDT
by
ZGuy
To: ZGuy
That pervert!!! Supporting marriage between a man and a woman -- HOW TWISTED!!! (/gross sarcasm)
2
posted on
08/31/2005 7:04:02 AM PDT
by
EagleUSA
To: ZGuy
But when he placed a bumper sticker supporting traditional marriage in his own cubicle, his supervisor ordered him to remove it.I'm curious, what did the bumper sticker say?
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:04:21 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
To: ZGuy
It's work. Put your sticker on your house or car. When at work...how about..hmmm..WORKING.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:04:27 AM PDT
by
mirkwood
(falcons)
To: mirkwood
It's work. Put your sticker on your house or car. When at work...how about..hmmm..WORKING.The employee at a private Orange County company works at an office where co-workers are allowed to have personal, religious and political messages in their cubicles.
Yes, hanging a bumper sticker in my cubical stops me from working for about 5 seconds. Damn, I'm a theif....
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:06:34 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
To: scripter
later pingout.
For your information as well... I should be pinging out later today.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:06:46 AM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
To: mirkwood
The employee at a private Orange County company works at an office where co-workers are allowed to have personal, religious and political messages in their cubicles. Isn't he allowed the same rights as his co-workers?
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:06:50 AM PDT
by
ShadowAce
(Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
To: mirkwood
Yes, it's work.
But the lawyers are correct.
IF the employer allows SOME people to post political messages in their cubicle, the employer loses the power to prevent OTHER people from posting political messages in theirs, so long as the messages are not obscene.
Employers have the right to say "NO politics or displays of religion at work." That is perfectly legal and legitimate. But they do not have the right, if they allow some of it, to ban others of it. Once the door is opened, it's opened. The employee will win his case, because the employer does not have a leg to stand on here.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:07:52 AM PDT
by
Vicomte13
(Et alors?)
To: mirkwood
The point is that the employer permits free religious and political expression by employees in their cubicles. This employee was singled out because the employer objected to the content of the expression for that employee. Either all employees can take part in this expression, or none can. It's hypocritical and illegal to be selective. That's what the lawsuit is about. If the employer was smart, all such expressions would be barred. Then there is no chance of lawsuits. Except that the warm and fuzzy sociologists would spew the propaganda that free expression like this enhances morale. Well, it kills morale when people get fired over it.
There is probably more to the story. This employee m ay have been a confrontaitonal, angery, in your face-type about the issue and the other employees didn't like that.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:11:04 AM PDT
by
doc30
(Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
To: mirkwood
Read the article before posting.
OTHERS were allowed to put up those kinds of posters, but with different messages..
I hope he is suing for large money, that's the only way word will get around, and put a stop to this kind of thing.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:11:11 AM PDT
by
Balding_Eagle
(God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
To: Vicomte13
employers should be able to fire or hire based on whatever reason they want. It's their business.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:11:22 AM PDT
by
Khepera
(Do not remove by penalty of law!)
To: ZGuy
Attorney and PJI president Brad Dacus says the First Amendment prohibits employers from discriminating against a worker based on his or her personal, political, or religious viewpoints. The FA says Congress shall make no law abridging Freedom of Speech. I can't find a word in there about "employers."
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:12:36 AM PDT
by
TheBigB
(It's funktastic!!)
To: doc30
There's quite a bit to this story we don't know. Reserving judgement with a strong dose of skepticism.
13
posted on
08/31/2005 7:13:37 AM PDT
by
dmz
To: Vicomte13
The employee will win his case, because the employer does not have a leg to stand on here. Unless the bumper sticker is over the top with regards to obsenity or it is extremely offensive. That is why I asked what does the bumper sticker say? My guess is that this is not the case and you are probably right...
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:14:04 AM PDT
by
frogjerk
(LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
To: Balding_Eagle
perhaps you should wait to hear both sides before standing in judgement. we've only got one side of the story in front of us.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:15:22 AM PDT
by
dmz
To: Vicomte13
The employer is completely within his rights here. He can allow or disallow ANY message he wants. There is no "fairness doctrine" in the workplace. A private business can't fire him for his religous views but it can limit his expression of those views in the workplace, even if they allow others. The only equality laws that apply to the workplace are hiring and compensation related based sex, race, or religion. That's all the law covers. Thank God. It is the employer's company, not the government's. His actions may have negative consequences but that's his problem, not Uncle Sam's.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:17:39 AM PDT
by
curtish
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: onemoretimeuntothebreech
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:19:39 AM PDT
by
curtish
To: frogjerk; mirkwood
In addition, when asked to take it down, he did -- and was still punished.
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posted on
08/31/2005 7:20:52 AM PDT
by
AmishDude
(Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
To: ZGuy
NOW I've heard everything.
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