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Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Various ^ | 30 August 2005

Posted on 08/30/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Catastrophic damage occurred to Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama as a result of Hurricane Katrina. Major bridges are destroyed. Mobile AL suffered its worst flooding in 90 years. In New Orleans, a large section of concrete levee broke last night. Water continues to rise, threatening, among many things, Tulane Hospital with 1000 patients. New Orleans officials: Do not attempt to return to the city at this time if you evacuated. It is too dangerous.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula

Gulfport News via Topix.net WAFB Baton Rouge

Slidell, Mandeville, and Covington Updates Warning: website is overloaded due to heavy traffic

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; livehurricanekatrina; prayanddonate; tropical
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To: ohioWfan
Are they getting any closer to getting them working so they can drain that rancid water??

Last I heard this morning the pumps were still out and were working on them.

541 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:18 AM PDT by Tiger Smack
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To: Tiger Smack
You cant plan for something like this. The city is 8 ft below sealevel. Nothing man made can stop mother nature.

You can't stop the storm. But you can have a plan in place to get everyone out who wants to get out. That wasn't done. And it borders on criminal negligence.

542 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: toldyou

I saw that same family! and I saw an update. They all survived--the little girl actually slept through most of it. Those shrimp boats are built like a tank. The woman said the boat rocked a bit, but no major damage. When I saw them before the storm, I assumed they would be dead by the end. Good news in the midst of so much bad.


543 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:27 AM PDT by cwiz24 (I worked very hard on this tagline.)
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To: NautiNurse

3000 lb sandbags. Should be interesting.


544 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:28 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: angcat
Where is Oprah and Bono, and all the phony bastards?

Druming up support for aid to Africa and the 7% of GDP demand to be given to the UN. Oh, they may stop by New Orleans on their way to their next gig to for a shot of bourbon, but they will make haste to head off to some anti-America rally pushng for $50 billion to be given toward "world poverty".

545 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:31 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Pete

And to add to everything else an oil tanker has sunk and is leaking oil. The pumps are not working and this doesn't even include the amount of water that will be coming down the Mississippi as the Ohio River and other rivers sent the current rain down the river.


546 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:40 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: BlueNgold

I appreciate your response but it was written a little over my head.

As I watch people walking through deep water, could they get electrocuted?


547 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:41 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Seattle Conservative
Same stupid Cindy ad on FNC now.

I am hoping that running her ad at this time will have the opposite effect that the leftist want...people WILL BE offended that ads are running during coverage of a national disaster

548 posted on 08/30/2005 8:49:52 AM PDT by apackof2 (In my simple way, I guess you could say I'm living in the BIG TIME)
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To: Dyxee
Diamond Head info via topix.com
549 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: WoodstockCat; 4everontheRight; silentknight; Howlin
Thank you and all for the information yesterday about Hattiesburg area.

My dad still can't get ahold of his sisters (actually in Purvis about 10 miles SSW), but he did talk to their niece who had talked to them. They're ok :-)

Several trees are down, a couple hit the house, but only on the corners.

Still a bandaid house he says - lol

550 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:14 AM PDT by easonc52
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To: ohioWfan
I believe that the dysfunctional old pumps are still underwater and inaccessible.
551 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:26 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cajungirl

A cofferdam is a temporary water retaining (or excluding) construction aid. In this case, you build a ring around the breach by dumping a LOT of fill from barges, or from dump trucks if you have road access. Once it is higher than the waterlevel, you can pump it dry to unwater the worksite and repair the levee.

There has been a report that engineers are working to stem a breach near the 17th street canal in western NO (reported as memory serves, no guarantees as to accuracy). That's a different thing, an ongoing fight against time and moving water. If true, these guys are heroes, deliberately standing into harm's way to try and save NO.

As to method, you dump everything you have or can get your hand on into the hole and hope it clogs. At this point, I'd consider using demo charges to drop a building across the hole if there was one available. Point being, whatever it takes. Don't expect miracles, some reports have breaches in excess of 200 feet or yards, don't remember which.


552 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:29 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Tiger Smack

Pumps are now going underwater and impossible to get to according to WDSU.


553 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:35 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: apackof2

agree


554 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:44 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Gabz; NautiNurse

This link pretty much sums up the situation here in Alexandria.

http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050830/NEWS01/508300322/1002

Like I said, people either have nowhere to stay, or they can't afford to keep paying for lodging and travel expenses on a long-term basis.

I don't know exactly what Wal-Mart intends to use their donations for, but I think it would be a wonderful public relations move if they simply went up and down MacArthur Drive in Alexandria and distributed small-denomination gift cards at each motel on the strip, as well as the shelters. People in this situation desperately need everything from personal hygiene items to food to gasoline, and a Wal-Mart card would cover all the bases.


555 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:53 AM PDT by buickmackane (reporting from Pineville, Rapides Parish, LA)
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To: HankReardon

It is part of the problem. Why they didn't have a plan ready is why there is still thousands of people trapped.


556 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:53 AM PDT by CajunConservative (Southwest Louisiana)
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To: Tiger Smack; Pete

Thank you

Pray the sand bags work


557 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:54 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: NautiNurse
But if they get the levees fixed, they will need functional pumps, right?

Can they even be worked on at this point?

558 posted on 08/30/2005 8:50:58 AM PDT by ohioWfan (If my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray......)
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To: Peach

see my post #543


559 posted on 08/30/2005 8:51:02 AM PDT by cwiz24 (I worked very hard on this tagline.)
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To: All
URGENT NEWS ABOUT NEW ORLEANS VIA A LOCAL LOS ANGELES REPORTER STRANDED IN A HOTEL DOWNTOWN. (Don't know where else to put this, so am posting here.)

The local KTLA Channel 5 Los Angeles science and technology reporter, Kurt Knudtsen (spelling ?) is stranded in a hotel in downtown New Orleans. This morning, while the cable news stations still don't seem to have quite gotten what's going on in New Orleans yet, Kurt has been giving live updates to his station in L.A. Turns out the land line in his hotel is still working where he's at because, he said, its on a slightly higher bit of ground than the surrounding area, and the lines are underground there. No telling how long they'll continue to work, but for now he's able to give updates to the folks back here at KTLA.

What he describes is devastating. Looting. Shooting. He said he heard screaming, but was afraid to peak outside to see what was happening.

There are fires in a couple of buildings in the city due to gas lines that have not been shut off. No way to put out those fires right now, so the fires might spread.

KTLA has been showing helicopter footage of New Orleans. Looks like most of the city is flooded up to rooftop level. One of the fires is in a small wood-frame house that had been totally gutted when taped from the helo. A guy was stranded on a roof a couple of houses over. If that fire spreads, no telling how many trapped and/or stranded people are nearby.

Eight feet of water surrounds Kurt's hotel, which he says is in the oldest part of N.O., and on a slightly higher piece of ground. The hotel staff have said anyone who leaves doesn't get back in because of the civil unrest outside. They are down to food rationing. A piece of fruit this morning, a muffin for lunch, don't know about dinner. He says it's getting to the point where soon it will be every person for themselves as desperation and hunger set in.

He says its starting to be like on the Survivor TV show where people are making alliances with other people they think can survive this. Kurt says he's made an alliance with another guy he knows, and they are thinking about trying to make it over to a large parking structure nearby so that they might have a chance to flag down a rescue helicopter.

He says people are walking around in a daze not knowing where to go, but that things at the hotel have not quite gotten to the really desperate stage yet.

The people here at KTLA are trying to find a way to get him out. He was on assignment in New Orleans for the station -- not hurricane related assignment, I don't think. Just happened to be there and couldn't get out like a lot of people who happened to be visiting the city.

560 posted on 08/30/2005 8:51:17 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Re C. Sheehan: Not all women who give birth are worthy of being called mothers.)
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