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Radical Muslims told to leave Australia (if they prefer Sharia law, a fundamental part of Islam)
AFP ^ | 8/24/2005 | AFP

Posted on 08/24/2005 10:01:16 AM PDT by Mark Felton

SYDNEY (AFP) - Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law have been told to get out of Australia.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.

"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false.

"If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

Muslim schools will have to denounce terrorism as part of an effort to stamp out home-grown extremism under measures announced after Howard's meeting with 14 Islamic leaders Tuesday.

The prime minister called the meeting in the wake of last month's London bombings by British-born Muslims, amid fears that Australia could be the target of a similar attack by disaffected members of its small Muslim community.

"The purpose of the meeting was to identify ways of preventing the emergence of any terrorist behaviour in this country," Howard told commercial radio Wednesday.

"You won't change the minds of people who are hardened fanatics and hardened extremists. You have to identify them and take measures to ensure that they don't become a problem."

Asked if he was prepared to "get inside" mosques and schools to ensure there was no support for terrorism, Howard said: "Yes, to the extent necessary".

Britain, shaken by the rail and bus bombings which killed 56 people, is debating new powers which could include closing mosques where clerics are suspected of supporting extremists and deporting those who glorify suicide bombers.

Australia, which like Britain has troops in Iraq, is also contemplating tougher anti-terror legislation. which will be debated next month at a meeting between Howard and leaders of state governments.

Meanwhile, an Islamic youth organisation that was not invited to Howard's Tuesday meeting said it would call an alternative conference -- on September 11 -- for what it says is the 80 percent of Muslims who were not represented.

The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date's association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.

AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia.

Some 300,000 Muslims make up just 1.5 percent of Australia's population of 20 million.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; crushislam; islam; islamisevil; islamisnotareligion; muslim; muslims; september112005; sharia; sharialaw
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BTTT


21 posted on 08/24/2005 10:32:42 AM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: BostonianRightist
Indeed! The kind of no-nonsense common sense that should be happening here.
Muslims victimized? Poor whiny brats...
22 posted on 08/24/2005 10:35:06 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Not on my watch!)
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To: Mark Felton
"This is being seen worldwide now in democratic nations when Muslims achieve political power they begin to demand replacement of local laws with Sharia laws."

This has been happenining in Canada for a few years now. Muslims are gaining political positions, and trying to demand a Sharia court. It is all incremental, they are not looking for a quick take-over, just an incremental chipping away at democracy.

Link to Google search & many articles on Sharia Law in Canada

23 posted on 08/24/2005 10:36:02 AM PDT by all4one (All Muslims can be considered "moderate", until they decide to kill as many infidels as possible)
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To: Mark Felton

"For instance, if the USA were dominated by Muslims then the Muslims would have the political clout to overthrow the US Constitution and replace it with Sharia law."

Another great reason to stem the tide of immigration, less we go down the road.


24 posted on 08/24/2005 10:39:14 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Mark Felton

Howard for US RNC 2008 nominee.....!

TS


25 posted on 08/24/2005 10:39:20 AM PDT by 30 something american (never argue with idiots, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: Tequila25

Except that the Pope doesn't tell us that we've got to infest the country like rats and take over. If you want to be Catholic, fine, the door's always open.... both ways.


26 posted on 08/24/2005 10:41:49 AM PDT by MarineBrat (We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mark Felton

Those "down under" folks have it together!


27 posted on 08/24/2005 10:46:50 AM PDT by Just Lori (Praying that liberals will see the light. Yes, I believe in miracles.)
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To: Mark Felton

28 posted on 08/24/2005 10:46:51 AM PDT by MarineBrat (We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: All

Conspicuous by it's absence was the utterance of the phrase "religion of peace" by any of the ministers.


29 posted on 08/24/2005 10:47:17 AM PDT by olde north church ("The position of leader of the free world is vacant." Jacques Chirac, after meeting "B.J" Clinton)
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To: Mark Felton
The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date's association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias

Yes, because we know prejudice and bias against true believers is much more important than the deaths of thousands of infidels.

Put that group on the list with CAIR, the UN and the ACLU as "If they are for it, I am against it."

30 posted on 08/24/2005 10:49:25 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: One Proud Dad
""For instance, if the USA were dominated by Muslims then the Muslims would have the political clout to overthrow the US Constitution and replace it with Sharia law.""

I wish he would have said that in front of a squad of Marines, that would have been worth watching their response.

32 posted on 08/24/2005 10:50:37 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: Abathar

I'm laughing...


33 posted on 08/24/2005 10:52:54 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Tequila25

>>So you don't deny the Catholics' divided loyalty, eh?

I'm loyal to God, country and family... in that order. And I'm born and raised Catholic. Make of that what you wish. If you want to pretend that being a good Catholic is detrimental to being a good citizen of the USA, then in my opinion you're...


34 posted on 08/24/2005 10:55:33 AM PDT by MarineBrat (We are taxed twice as much by our idleness. -- Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mark Felton
Another thread...

Saudi Arabia - Persecution of Christians grows under new king Abdullah

To the muslim mentality, there is no connection...
No inconsistency...

Same for their apologists.
Morons.

35 posted on 08/24/2005 10:58:14 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Mark Felton

This will be an interesting situation to watch. While some (especially non-muslims) claim that "jihad" means personal struggle, the one sign that muslims agree on as the "sign" to unleash a physical jihad holy war against a nation is the prohibition on practicing Islam.

Wonderful how the political ideology radicalizes itself whenever it is threatened (even if it is because of that radical component). And there can be no reform of Islam to defuse it because Mohammed was "the last prophet". To go against Mohammed is to go against Islam.


36 posted on 08/24/2005 10:59:48 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: Tequila25
This just in: Catholics are subservient to the Pope, will put loyalty to the Vatican above America.

That is so 60s...

Another candidate for dumbest line of the week...

37 posted on 08/24/2005 11:00:45 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: silentknight

I agree that in the long term, America is lost, but socialism has so infiltrated so much of the nations of the world, I don't see many viable opportunities.


38 posted on 08/24/2005 11:02:02 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Another reason Islam is incompatible with democracy, its legal system is a supremacist ideology. Muslims are above Jews/Christians (people of "the book"), and lowest of all are "everybody else". When crimes by muslims against non-muslims or crimes by non-muslims against muslims carry different penalties or charges, there is no justice.
39 posted on 08/24/2005 11:04:27 AM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: Mark Felton

Someone send a memo to DHS.


40 posted on 08/24/2005 11:05:14 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Hey Senator! Leave those kids alone!)
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