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"The Fair Tax Book" New York Times #1
Nealz Nuze ^ | 8/11/05 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 08/11/2005 7:27:51 AM PDT by GPBurdell

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU !!!!

We got the word just as we were arriving at our Gainesville, Florida hotel. The FairTax Book will debut at No. 1 on the New York Times non-fiction bestseller's list. In a word .... unbelievable. Oddly enough, this list won't actually be published until September 21st. Go figure.

Last winter I spent week after week doing my radio show, grabbing a sandwich for lunch, and then sitting down in front of the word processor and stacks of research to pound out my portion of this book. Congressman Linder was doing the same thing at his home in Washington DC or Atlanta. We both believe totally in the FairTax idea, and we wanted to have a book out there for people who were similarly dedicated, or who just had a curiosity that needed to be satisfied. Neither of us ever imagined what would happen. Neither, frankly, did the publisher. It was only about six weeks ago that we started to wonder whether or not we might be able to make it to the New York Times bestseller's list. Now that we know we will debut September 21st No. 1, we're just blown away.

This means so much for The FairTax movement. Any book that rises to No. 1 creates a buzz ... whether it's about teenaged wizards or tax reform. Well ... especially tax reform. This just doesn't happen. Books on tax reform don't go to No. 1. So now opinion makers, politicians, pundits, editorial writers, reporters, columnists and others will take notice and start paying attention. This will result in more and more efforts such as this opinion piece that appeared in the Clark Times-Courier in Berryville, Virginia. Late yesterday I was notified that a writer and photographer from a major national magazine will join the book tour today to see just what is going on here. This will mean that more and more Americans will become aware of the essence of the FairTax, and what it can mean to both their personal financial picture and to the American economy. As the people become aware this idea becomes more and more impossible for the political class to ignore.

Do we have hopes that The FairTax Book will stay at No. 1? Well, that would be nice ... but I'm not expecting it. Our best hope is that continued interest in this fantastic tax reform idea will keep the book up there in the top five for weeks ... and that the FairTax will continue to generate conversation across the country.

Again. Congressman Linder and I thank you ... as do the tens of millions of Americans who have been laboring under a punishing and confiscatory tax system for generations. This is a great country, and a country of bold ideas. The current income tax is beyond salvaging. In 1986 we enacted what was supposed to be a wonderful tax reform plan that eliminated most tax deductions and instituted what was essentially a two-tiered flat tax. There were two tax brackets, 15% and 28%. Simple as that. But it didn't stay simple. That tax law has now been amended and modified more than 10,000 times.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: booksales; boortz; fairtax; linder; scam; scientology; taxes; taxfraud; taxreform
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To: ancient_geezer

Giddy-up.


41 posted on 08/11/2005 8:36:54 AM PDT by mombrown1
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To: CONSERVE

Question does the fair tax get rid of all the taxes or just the ones on your check. I.E. phone tax, gas tax, etc. etc. etc..

The FairTax legislation repeals all federal income and payroll taxes, and gift/estate taxes, covering about 94% of federal revenue collections.

Specific excises and tariffs are still left on the books, though like you I would like to see the others gone as well. Good time to push for that to be added to the bill. Write Linder and your Congress Critters and tell them your desires on that one. The FairTax legislation should cover ALL, 100% of federal taxes, not just 94%. It should be a clean sweep, I'm right behind you there.

42 posted on 08/11/2005 8:39:49 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: GPBurdell

Thanks for the post!!


43 posted on 08/11/2005 8:52:13 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: GVgirl

I doubt the framers of the constitution, when impowering the federal government to impose excise taxes would even recognize the concept of a consumption tax.

 

Federalist #12:

 

Federalist #21:

 

And how would this society change when you are personally responsible for delivering-up to the government every penny on every transaction?

Seeing as the FairTax is a tax on retail sales only, that is rather for from the mark.

As regards who is expected to pay taxes in the United States under the Constitution as it was designed to work:

Federalist #39:

 

Anti-Federalist Papers #3 NEW CONSTITUTION CREATES A NATIONAL GOVERNMENT;

There are but two modes by which men are connected in society, the one which operates on individuals, this always has been, and ought still to be called, national government; the other which binds States and governments together (not corporations, for there is no considerable nation on earth, despotic, monarchical, or republican, that does not contain many subordinate corporations with various constitutions) this last has heretofore been denominated a league or confederacy. The term federalists is therefore improperly applied to themselves, by the friends and supporters of the proposed constitution.

 

Federalist #34:

 

The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787
(Farrand's Records)
James Mchenry before the Maryland House of Delegates.
Maryland Novr. 29th 1787--
Appendix A, CXLVIa, page 149, S9.
"Convention have also provided against any direct or Capitation Tax but according to an equal proportion among the respective States: This was thought a necessary precaution though it was the idea of every one that government would seldom have recourse to direct Taxation, and that the objects of Commerce would be more than Sufficient to answer the common exigencies of State and should further supplies be necessary, the power of Congress would not be exercised while the respective States would raise those supplies in any other manner more suitable to their own inclinations --"

 


 

Constitution for the United States of America:

A LAW DICTIONARY
by John Bouvier, Revised Sixth Edition, 1856:

"COMMERCE, trade, contracts
.
The exchange of commodities for commodities; considered in a legal point of view, it consists in the various agreements which have for their object to facilitate the exchange of the products of the earth or industry of man, with an intent to realize a profit. Pard. Dr. Coin. n. 1. In a narrower sense, commerce signifies any reciprocal agreements between two persons, by which one delivers to the other a thing, which the latter accepts, and for which he pays a consideration; if the consideration be money, it is called a sale; if any other thing than money, it is called exchange or barter. Domat, Dr. Pub. liv. 1, tit. 7, s. 1, n. "

 

A LAW DICTIONARY
by John Bouvier, Revised Sixth Edition, 1856:

DUTIES.
In its most enlarged sense, this word is nearly equivalent to taxes, embracing all impositions or charges levied on persons or things;

A LAW DICTIONARY
by John Bouvier, Revised Sixth Edition, 1856:

EXCISES.
This word is used to signify an inland imposition, paid sometimes upon the consumption of the commodity, and frequently upon the retail sale.


44 posted on 08/11/2005 8:52:25 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
If your self-employed, you collect money from other people in exchange for the goods or services you offer. That transaction would certainly be a taxable event.

So who is responsible for accounting the transaction, collecting the tax and transmitting it to the government? The guy who just wrote a check for his groceries? I don't think so. I assume it's the person who is PAID. That's the business owner.

Now you can say that it's no different than collecting a state sales tax, but what about transactions that here-to-for have not had a sales tax levied? Let's say you collect rents. Are YOU going to be responsible for paying and reporting to the government the taxes on every cent you receive, or is the rent payer? Forget the "income". It will fall to the person collecting the money. You won't be paying taxes 1-4 times a year. Will you have to account for it on a daily basis?

What if Mom leaves the old beater car to junior in her will? Mom won't be around to pay on that transaction. Will junior owe the sales tax on the value of the transaction?

I'm just saying that such a taxation scenario is going to make very profound changes in our lives, and may call upon a large segment of this society to account -- in minute detail -- for every transaction. We would do well to seriously contemplate the reprocussions.

45 posted on 08/11/2005 10:17:31 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVgirl
You are correct about the impact it will have on our lives but 99.9% of them are positive.

Take the rent collector, or property owner more precisely. Yes, the taxes on that are remitted by the collector, and he is paid a percentage of it for doing so, but the renter actually pays it, as renters do now but unknowingly. However, with the present system the landlord has to pay tax on the income from that property so he must keep up with it anyway. In addition, in order to minimize his tax he has to deduct his depreciation and all his expense in maintaining his property, including the costs of a rent collector if he uses one instead of doing it himself. Of course, all those costs are necessarily added to the rent he charges or he would not be able to be in that business.

So, the renter pays the tax, as he does now anyway but it is buried in the rent payment, and the rentor remits the money to the government in a way that is much easier and less expensive to determine.

Back to the grocery store. Not all items there are taxable so the grocer has to know, or his computer does, what is and what isn't taxed and how much for each. Then he must determine to whom the money goes. With the NRST all will be taxed and all will be taxed the same, making it much simpler for everyone. All legal residents of the US will receive a prebate check to cover the cost of the tax on necessities up to a certain level.

The old car will not be taxed because all items are taxed at retail, paid when the car was new, and taxed only once, when it was new.

It is really much easier and simpler than what we are now doing. The big difference is that it will all be visible where many of the taxes we pay now are hidden.

46 posted on 08/11/2005 10:40:17 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: GPBurdell

Way to go Boortz and Linder. This is one heck of an accomplishment. Kudos to these fine patriots.


47 posted on 08/11/2005 11:01:26 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: CONSERVE

It gets rid of all Federal taxes, and rolls them into a single sales tax levied at the retail level.

State and local stay where they are. That's another battle.


48 posted on 08/11/2005 11:55:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: GPBurdell

Excellent news? The question now is how many weeks will it stay #1 or top five, top ten? Will it become a T.V. reality show?


49 posted on 08/11/2005 12:51:42 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D
Will it become a T.V. reality show?

First a Congressional reality show, then a TV reality show. :-)

Buzz
Buzz Blog

50 posted on 08/11/2005 1:04:34 PM PDT by GPBurdell
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To: Phantom Lord

Maybe becuz' you forgot to get a Spanish-speaking cell phone????


51 posted on 08/11/2005 1:10:49 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: ancient_geezer
Excellent Post! You've done your homework! Go to the head of the class!

One thing I find puzzling is that section eight in Article one list all the powers granted to Congress by the Constitution including entering into treaties with foreign powers, coining money, laying and collect taxes etc...

This means states do not have the above powers since they are listed in Article I Section 8. It would be unconstitutional for a state to coin its own money or enter into treaties with foreign nations , therefore it should also be unconstitutional for a state to lay and collect taxes and yet many states have multiple state taxes. Am I missing something?
52 posted on 08/11/2005 1:11:12 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Man, keep thinking like that and your head is going to explode. It's like thinking about time travel. LOL If I go back in time and tell myself to buy Microsoft stock, will I cause a rift in the space time continuum?


53 posted on 08/11/2005 1:56:11 PM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: GPBurdell

Outstanding!!


54 posted on 08/11/2005 1:59:26 PM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
The old car will not be taxed because all items are taxed at retail, paid when the car was new, and taxed only once, when it was new.

Sounds like you're up on this program. I don't understand why the old car wouldn't be taxed. Are you sure a consumption tax only applies on retail transactions? If so, why would a tenant pay the tax, or a landlord either (for that matter)?

55 posted on 08/11/2005 2:37:25 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GPBurdell

Hubby and I have our copy, and we're looking it over now. I'm thinking of ordering more to send to family members.


56 posted on 08/11/2005 3:04:53 PM PDT by Purrcival (MSM & DUmmies - Exploiting grieving mothers for political gain)
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To: GVgirl
Sounds like you're up on this program. I don't understand why the old car wouldn't be taxed. Are you sure a consumption tax only applies on retail transactions? If so, why would a tenant pay the tax, or a landlord either (for that matter)?

I am certain about the car and confident about what I said about the rent, but not certain. I can't find rent in the book or on the web. I will try to find the HR 25 bill itself and see if I can find it. The reason I am confident is because what I told you is in keeping with the general principles of the bill.

57 posted on 08/11/2005 3:43:11 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: GVgirl

Keep in mind that this is a National RETAIL Sales Tax. Only new, retail items.


58 posted on 08/11/2005 4:05:01 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Rent IS taxed if for individual domicile purpose (e.g., use as a residence). The landlord would collect the tax and be paid for doing so. In effect the renter is "consuming" the use of the property by renting (or you can think of his renting it as consuming the service of providing shelter, I suppose).

A business rental of, say, an office for normal business purposes would not be taxed.


59 posted on 08/11/2005 4:06:51 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Cyclone59

Think about one recent event and tell me that prices won't fall.

GM announced "Employee Pricing" on all of it's vehicles and sales took off. After seeing their sales drop off, Ford and Chrysler announced their own similar programs.

Did they have to? Nope. But they did because they wanted to stay in business.

This example is only temporary because it was based on cutting profits to sell cars, but it was still necessary for Ford and Chrysler to stay competitive.

When actual costs -- tax and tax compliance -- are removed, the effect will be more permanent.


60 posted on 08/11/2005 4:30:27 PM PDT by Badray
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