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sunmoonstars

New postPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:08 pm
Greta w Beth & Jug Monday Pm

We talked to some of the friends that were on the trip. Beth is like one of their best friends.
Friends came over this afternoon and we talked about the trip and got the real picture of what happened.

I saw specific details that were eating me alive
Pvds stated he picked them up at 4am
When we went to his home, is the first time he changed it to 11pm
Jug: I really hope that the new people involved. Getting Van der Stratten out of the way, things can go back to the beginning.
Statements were not taken for 19 days
Need to go back and talk to a lot of people
Beth: I cannot wait to go back to Aruba
Jug: When we drove up, Joran, Deepak and Paulus were there and they have the answers
Beth: They were no more credible witnesses than anybody. They have no credibility.
They have the fisherman, resturant help and security guards saying there is no way they saw Natalee there.
They need to rearrest them.
Nailing the three together at the racquet club.
If Deepak and Satish are saying that is where they left Joran and Nat, it is a lie.
Optomistic about new investigators
Jug: My friends who came down to help me went to the international school. They took posters to the school and were actually writing on there, wrote on the bottom of them asked Joran.
Headmaster comes out and says come into my office. He was a nice guy.
He tells about Joran and father came in the day before and discussed a little about what happened.
The father said in front of the headmaster: Joran, you need to come clean you've already admitted you had relationships with Natalee. We need to tell the true story or something like that.
Headmaster said I understand the video at hotel had a break in it and that is why they didn't see them pull up at HI.
I also understand they may have been swimming and she may have hit her head.
Jug wondering how the headmaster knew all that two days later?
The police say they have talked to him, but family has no details.
We ask, they wont tell us.
Why would Joran tell the headmaster that there was a break in the tape at the HI??
Beth: Deepak, Satish and Joran were the last three to see Natalee. There is no way that I believe that Deepak and Satish have any credibility as a witness saying they left Natalee and Joran at the beach.
Jug: There is no physical evidence that she is not. As much as we have searched and looked and prayed. There are so many stories out there where he could be connected to this or that or this could have happened because of gamblind. Or this could have happend because of that. There is a big possibility that she is alive.
Beth: You are hearing this gambling debt. Joran has an open line of credit at every casino. Had one at Excelsior...where is that casino manager? Did he leave the country?
Greta: What about these stories that she may be in Venezuela?
Beth: That is where I tie it back to these gambling issues. I just don't know if that could have played into it or not. Who knows where his connections were, what connections he had at these casinos. I think about that as a kidnapping or transaction, I don't know.
Greta: What is your level of reliance on that, that she is still alive?
Beth: I have nothing to prove to me that she is not. Absolutely nothing, so I am going for she is alive. Because I just don't have anything else.


1,860 posted on 08/01/2005 8:10:59 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe
From Major Wager:

clevfan

There is one poster at this gambling site that has been very interested in this case. He has also posted that he has communicated via post or e-mails to some friend of Deepak's and/or with Deepak himself.

07/23/2005 10:13 PM

Spent some time talking to Deepak tonight, he swears he innocent, says he got sick of Natalee and Joran making out in his backseat and wanted them out of car. Guy is very paronoid, but I guess I would be too if I was up for suspecision of murder. He told me that come Monday all the facts will be known and he will be vindicated.

He is totally spooked of americans now, and says he can't believe the Holloways went on tv and called him a criminal. That ticked him off.

I honestly don't know what to believe. I want to believe this kid just was caught up in a bad situation, where he dropped his buddy Joran off and he went home, then Joran did something. He tells me he wants to kick Joran ass.

1,862 posted on 08/01/2005 8:19:51 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: theophilusscribe

Thank you for doing that!


Mike Posner, casino owner.


Grand Holiday Casino (GHC)

This casino was first opened by Danny Jones in 1985 after he purchased it from Frank King (formerly King International Casino). On September 1,1998 the GHC was sold to Mike Posner and he renamed the casino Excelsior Casino.


1,863 posted on 08/01/2005 8:23:18 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: theophilusscribe

Tuesday, February 22, 2005

In Aruba at the Excelsior Casino, the UltimateBet.com Internet poker site held the inaugural Ultimate Poker Classic. Nearly 100 Internet players received a vacation to Aruba to compete for gold bracelets and more than $425,000 in prize money.

Russ Hamilton, UltimateBet host and master of ceremonies, worked tirelessly and almost sleeplessly the entire week. Russ hosted the opening pool party dinner, the beach Olympics, his golf tournament, and the awards ceremony dinner, and helped orchestrate the three TV final tables that were held in one day.

Along the way, he found time to win two events in Bonnie Damiano's Caribbean Poker Classic, directed by Tom McEvoy and held also at Mike Posner's Excelsior Casino.


1,867 posted on 08/01/2005 8:27:41 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: theophilusscribe

You are good! Court reporter?


1,905 posted on 08/01/2005 10:36:56 PM PDT by Yaelle
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