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Experiment Supports Controversial 'Fusion-In-A-Jar' Claims
Information Week ^ | July 22, 2005

Posted on 07/25/2005 8:33:29 AM PDT by Irontank

A widely criticized effort three years ago to create low-cost tabletop nuclear fusion could gain new support following an experiment at Purdue University.

Taking the basic apparatus used in 2002, two Purdue researchers refined the experiment and published new results that once again seem to prove that nuclear fusion was taking place. If it proves to be real, the new approach might lead to a genuine new source of energy.

An inexpensive, practical method of controlling nuclear fusion could revolutionize energy production, so any hint of a breakthrough in that direction generates high interest among both the technical community and the mainstream media. But hard-headed physicists have grown wary of "fusion in a jar" experiments.

The physics community was lukewarm to n approach to tabletop fusion that originated with Rusi Taleyarkhan at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in 2002. Using acoustic cavitation generated by ultrasound waves in a solution doped with deuterium, Taleyarkhan and his colleagues published results that they considered an airtight case for nuclear fusion. But criticism followed. When Taleyarkhan replied with a follow-up experiment to address those concerns, the reaction was muted.

The Purdue team began its work independently two years ago. "Sonofusion is thermonuclear fusion and is scalable," said Yiban Xu, who performed the experiment with fellow researcher Adam Butt. "However, much research and development needs to be done before reaching so-called energy break-even."

In the language of nuclear fusion researchers, break-even is the point beyond which a reaction produces more energy than it consumes, the minimal requirement for success. Xu, more concerned with proving that any nuclear fusion occurred, cannot say whether the reaction produces energy efficiently.

Xu said a small-scale apparatus like his experimental setup could have other important applications. "Neutrons seed cavitation in the test fluid, and so do the other nuclear particles. Therefore, in principle, cavitation occurrence indicates the presence of radiation activities if appropriate conditions are provided," he said.

Possible applications could be a simple and portable neutron source or a way to generate tritium, a helium isotope produced by the reaction.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: acousticcavitation; bubblefusion; deuterium; energy; fusion; hydrogen; nuclearfusion; physics; purdue; science; sonofusion; sonoluminescence
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To: Irontank

Will it work in a Delorean?

21 posted on 07/25/2005 8:58:51 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: clee1

If valid, I don't think it produces "fissile" material, only fusionable material, which is only a problem if one has fissile material to kick-start an uncontrolled fusion reaction.

But I read quickly, and am very willing to stand corrected.


22 posted on 07/25/2005 9:10:16 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: kharaku

'So how long until we have a fusion coffemaker?'

Until it costs billions in grants and research funding and can be expensively produced by big enegy intrests it won't happen.


23 posted on 07/25/2005 9:11:46 AM PDT by Leg Olam (I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood for 30 years.)
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To: Irontank

How about an ethanol powered fusion generator? 99% free energy.


24 posted on 07/25/2005 9:15:25 AM PDT by Fog Nozzle
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To: RayChuang88
That's because they want a cheap source of deuterium for the lithium deuteride fissile material used for regular replacement of fissile materials in our nuclear stockpile

Lithium Deuteride is not "fissile." It's what undergoes fusion. H-bombs use a fission bomb for a trigger, however.

25 posted on 07/25/2005 9:17:34 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Irontank

It is good to read that they used a well-designed experiment with a control to compare results. You have one deuterated acetone beaker and one acetone beaker. One produces high energy neutons and tritium and the other does not. The only difference is deuterium.

It seems that they did not rush to make news but started the experiments in 2002 and have changed researchers along the way, so there is less risk of data forgery. And then published in a peer-review journal.


26 posted on 07/25/2005 9:22:27 AM PDT by IpaqMan
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To: Personal Responsibility
Someone please post a link to the picture of Dr. Brown's "Mr. Fusion" from Back to the Future....


27 posted on 07/25/2005 9:24:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: bobjam
My understanding of these things is that it is a metal ball about a foot in diameter with a hollow center were the sound pressure is focused.

It is not cold fusion, but rather hot fusion on a incredibly small scale.

They produced no heat, but did produce neutrons which indicates that fusion was occurring.

They have not been able to produce more energy than they put in which is, of course, the proof of the pudding.
28 posted on 07/25/2005 9:30:46 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Irontank

Whether cold fusion is possible or not, I don't know. But it's evident that something interesting is going on, and it's also evident that the original cold fusion announcement was shot down without sufficient evidence to dismiss it.

The whole business seems extremely unlikely. But ground breaking new discoveries in science usually seem extremely unlikely, until the establishment has its faces well rubbed into the evidence.


29 posted on 07/25/2005 9:39:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kharaku

Don't you mean the coffee-maker-sized "Mr. Fusion" (copyright pending) device used at end of Back To The Future I?


30 posted on 07/25/2005 9:54:36 AM PDT by RossA
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To: Irontank
[ Using acoustic cavitation generated by ultrasound waves in a solution doped with deuterium, ]

Sounds like Hardrock-o-fusion to me.. which has been generating incredibly primitive sound energy for decades.. and many doped with Opiaterium are generating it..

Dangerous, look what it did to Ozzy Osborn.. total burn out.. The dude has been cavitating for years to imaginary drummers.. Effected his whole family..

32 posted on 07/25/2005 1:31:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: atomic_dog

In any reaction, you put in more energy than you get out. The energy loss is due to friction or incomplete burning. This experiment could lead to something big if the apparatus could be used to convert water to steam in order to drive a turbine. On a small scale, perhaps it could generate electricity to operate a car or train. On a large scale, perhaps it could be an alternative to fossil fuel or nuclear fission. For cars, this depends on the energy output to size/weight ratio (i.e., it has to be powerful enough to do the job but small enough and light enough to be realisticaly useful on our infrastructure).


33 posted on 07/25/2005 1:40:12 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: RayChuang88
I think the Department of Energy is probably quietly studying all the so-called claims of cold fusion and trying to find one that actually works when scaled up to a bigger device. That's because they want a cheap source of deuterium for the lithium deuteride fissile material used for regular replacement of fissile materials in our nuclear stockpile.

Deuterium is already the cheapest part of making a fusion bomb. Also, go look up the definition of "fissile material".

34 posted on 07/25/2005 6:22:22 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: r9etb
Lithium Deuteride is not "fissile." It's what undergoes fusion. H-bombs use a fission bomb for a trigger, however.

The fusion reaction is a tritium + deuterium reaction. The Lithim Deuteride serves as the source for the tritium by a Li + n reaction (n initially from the fissions).

35 posted on 07/25/2005 6:27:20 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: bobjam
In any reaction, you put in more energy than you get out.

True for an endothermic reaction but for an exothermic reaction you get more energy out than you put in.

36 posted on 07/25/2005 6:30:44 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: bobbdobbs
like stable uranium,

If uranium were stable, it wouldn't be radioactive.

37 posted on 07/25/2005 6:32:12 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: fooman

The Oak Ridge Boys wouldn't lie to us.

We'd stop buying their records.


38 posted on 07/25/2005 6:46:35 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (just saying "Sorry" in advance)
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To: Irontank

"fellow researcher Adam Butt"

You said butt,

hehheh heh hehhehheh

butt...........


39 posted on 07/25/2005 6:51:31 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: bobbdobbs
You can use a neutron source to "breed" fissile material from more inert heavy elements, like stable uranium, thorium, etc.

Like the boy scout who built a back yard breeder reactor.

He was making plutonium by bombarding gas lantern mantles with neutrons from radium he collected from old clocks.

If you doubt me google 'boy scout breeder reactor'

40 posted on 07/25/2005 7:03:03 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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