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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 8
Various News Outlets | 7/19/05

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; equusearch; joran; kalpoes; natalee; nataleeholloway; vandersloots
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To: sarasota

I meant do the authorities need to state the specific reason they want the DNA in their court order? Or can the court order just say they want it because it would be helpful.


521 posted on 07/20/2005 8:09:50 AM PDT by Landry Fan (Thank you US Military.)
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To: countryconservative

He said this sometime Sunday night. I'm thinking it was The Abrams Report.


522 posted on 07/20/2005 8:10:51 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Landry Fan

I don't have the answer to your question. Perhaps someone else can tell us?


523 posted on 07/20/2005 8:11:18 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: countryconservative
I take it also that that the hair is 2 toned and not that one hair is a different color than another, even though he tried his best to descibe it for Greta

There are a couple of transcripts on this thread posted yesterday that describes the strands of hair found on the duct tape.

Since the park ranger, Mario "Buchi" Rasmijn, either did not see or "not really" could see the hair pretty easily I would not put a lot of weight in his own or coached response to Greta.

524 posted on 07/20/2005 8:13:32 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: sarasota

I heard the two-tone but not the 6 inches. It's not unusual for a blond to have darker hair also, even if she's a 'bottle' blond.


525 posted on 07/20/2005 8:15:18 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: countryconservative; SAR
he never said how long it was on Greta's show last night.

But he (Mario "Buchi" Rasmijn) has said how long he thought the strands of hair were/are (6 inches). (See transcripts on this thread).

526 posted on 07/20/2005 8:19:37 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

I don't think he was coached. I think he did not know how describe it in simple "english" and that is why he seemed "odd" to some people. You could tell he was struggling with finding the right "english" terms.

Plus we know that FOX is always screwing up the ear pieces of the guests and many people tend to not understand Greta's questions. Her voice is kinda high pitched and fast.

Do you have a VCR or TIVO? - Start recording her show so you can play it back. It makes a world of difference if you can watch a replay of it over and over if need be. You will also see how "off" the transcripts are from what was actually said in most cases.


527 posted on 07/20/2005 8:22:51 AM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: Malichi
I really expected this guy to say that the hair belonged to Bobalewy or something.

At this point I would not be surprised. Something was funny to Mario, I think he might have been trying to make fun of that arroganta Americana mediarosa. :)

528 posted on 07/20/2005 8:23:09 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Okay moving right along.


529 posted on 07/20/2005 8:24:07 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TAquinas
But I think an 18-year-old under my roof will always be a child to me. Not until and unless she's under her own roof and married. And by "child" I mean that he/she must abide by my rules. I think it's called tough love.

I imagine that if you ever have 18-year-old offspring (I refrain from the term "children" since it implies minors), they will do a lot of sneaking around if still under your roof. Either that, or they will leave the over-protection of your roof the first chance they get. It's hard to make an adult comply with certain rules. This, of course, doesn't mean that a parent has to finance their adult offspring's adventures.

530 posted on 07/20/2005 8:24:15 AM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: TexKat
I am only relaying what he said last night on Greta's show since I can replay it off my Tivo.

In other words I am not arguing what he said in the past, just pointing out what he said on Greta's show last night to help clear up that he "never" claimed "he did not see any hairs". (re: to spectre's comments)

The guy did not act strange to me, it he acted like most arubans act, like english is not their first language.
531 posted on 07/20/2005 8:28:53 AM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: TexKat

"....make fun of that arroganta Americana mediarosa."

Yep! He zapped her good when she asked "and what did the police tell you when you gave them the tape".....his smiling reply was "Thank you", LOL


532 posted on 07/20/2005 8:32:10 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: justche
I'm sure lots of parent's will have second thoughts of sending their kids outside of the states for graduation parties.

Yep, there are no evil people and nothing bad ever happens in The States. </sarcasm>

533 posted on 07/20/2005 8:33:08 AM PDT by flada (Y2K? What are you selling, chicken or sex jelly?)
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To: Designer

You should be sorry you did not pick up on my sarcasm.


534 posted on 07/20/2005 8:35:00 AM PDT by Big Jake
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To: TexKat

Would you rather I just not post? I mean I see a lot bad info from people (not saying you) that they think came from Greta's show and I can sit here and replay Greta's show and I can clear up the 'bad" info. (example: The comments that the Ranger said he never saw any hairs on Greta's show last night, which is not what he said so I hit the TIVO to replay it and to find out what he said exactly.)

I don't see how the man was coached - Can you explain to me how you think he was coached?


535 posted on 07/20/2005 8:39:21 AM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: countryconservative; TexKat

Ya'll just agree to disagree. You both have posted some good information, thank you both.
TAW


536 posted on 07/20/2005 8:44:15 AM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; countryconservative; maggief; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Columbiana aiding in help to find Holloway

By Joan Garrett/Reporter Staff Writer

A close friend of Beth Twitty pleaded with Columbiana businessowners Thursday in attempts to raise money for the Natalee Holloway recovery fund in Aruba.

Marilyn Whitlock of Columbiana, who flew in from Aruba to sell the "Hope for Natalee" bracelets, said she has been close with the Twitty family for a number of years, ever since her husband and Jug Twitty met in college.

Whitlock and other close friends have been flying back and forth from Aruba to stay with Natalee's mother, Beth Twitty, who has not left the island since she arrived, the day after her daughter was last seen.

Natalee Holloway, a recent graduate of Mountain Brook High School, traveled to Aruba at the end of May with more than 100 of her fellow MBHS graduates.

She disappeared the night before she was to leave for home.

Since that time, Aruban authorities and residents have joined her family and friends in the search for some sign of what became of the teenager.

Holloway disappeared more than six weeks ago and money is tight, according to Whitlock.

Columbiana's House Hardware was one of the many businesses she approached about selling the "Hope for Natalee" bracelets.

Owner Lee House said he decided to buy the bracelets because he knows the family's struggle is a concern for the community.

"It is a good cause," he said. "And we try to help the community and much as we can."

The bracelets, which are sold for $5 each, were donated by Ducopak, a marketing company in Pelham, and Whitlock said all the proceeds go to the Natalee Holloway Recovery Trust Fund, which is covering costs of the investigation into the Alabama teen's disappearance.

Expensive cellular phone and legal bills are among some of the financial costs the family has incurred since they began searching for Natalee in Aruba, Whitlock said.

She said people are also able to donate to Natalee Holloway Reward Fund, which is paying for information leading to Natalee's recovery.

It was previous stated that the award would pay for information leading to Natalee's "safe return."

However, officials in the investigation stated last Wednesday that the award would now pay for any information leading to her recovery, a definite reflection of the family's changing attitude toward the investigation, she said.

"The last time I talked with Beth, I was real hopeful. She said, 'One day, I am burying her. The next day, I am wanting her home alive.' It's just like the waves in that ocean," she said tearfully. "It is a ride."

She said the Aruban justice system has confused and frustrated the Twitty family since their arrival, especially since many of suspects in the case have been released.

When an Aruban appeals court ruled last Thursday to keep Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch teenager who appears to be the primary suspect, for 60 more days, Whitlock said everyone was relieved.

"Beth was panicked. She thought they would release him," she said.

She said family and close friends of Natalee believe that the three men, Deepak Kalpoe, 21, Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Joran van der Sloot, 17, were involved in her disappearance, but she said everyone has different theories about exactly what happened to her.

Whitlock said Twitty still has hope that Natalee will come back to the hotel room where her things were packed to go home, but she is also preparing for the worst.

"She won't look at the water. She won't go out on the beach," Whitlock said. "She is afraid that (Natalee's) body will be found."

Two businesses in Columbiana have the bracelets available, and Whitlock said she is grateful.

"There are lots of people in Shelby County who are praying and involved in solving this," she said.

537 posted on 07/20/2005 8:47:06 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: countryconservative
Would you rather I just not post?

Who said anything about you not posting? You and who?

I mean I see a lot bad info from people (not saying you) that they think came from Greta's show and I can sit here and replay Greta's show and I can clear up the 'bad" info. (example: The comments that the Ranger said he never saw any hairs on Greta's show last night, which is not what he said so I hit the TIVO to replay it and to find out what he said exactly.)

The transcript if and when it is posted will contain what Mario "Buchi" Rasmijn stated. I just do not see a reason to continue to rehash this. I could be wrong and so could you.

538 posted on 07/20/2005 8:57:02 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

"She is afraid Natalee's body will be found"; and, I'm sure, she would also want her body to be found. What a terrible predicament.


539 posted on 07/20/2005 8:58:00 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

That's a trrible situation to be in. I guess they just want the answers no matter what they may be. Sad.


540 posted on 07/20/2005 9:03:01 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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